| NEWS ESPN analyst not sold on Tua Tagovailoa as Alabama's starting QB

There's a reason why Alabama quarterback Jalen Hurts is still on campus prepping to compete for the Crimson Tide's starting job against Tua Tagovailoa in August. He hasn't lost it yet, according to ESPN college football analyst Trevor Matich, who believes Hurts will benefit greatly from a new quarterbacks coach in former Arkansas Dan Enos.

Matich told AL.com, "I’m not quite as certain as some other people that Tua is going to be the guy" in a wide-ranging interview centering on Alabama's offense in 2018. While Tagovailoa recovered from a hand injury during the spring game, Hurts finished 19-of-37 for 195 yards and an interception. He failed to lead his team on a touchdown drive against Alabama's first-team defense and stalled inside the red zone on several possessions.

"What I am certain of is whoever plays at that position, Alabama will have something they haven’t had in a while, and that is a credible, exciting deep passing game, because with Dan Enos as the quarterback coach, he legitimately is the quarterback whisperer," Matich said. "If anybody can draw that aspect of the game out of Jalen Hurts, he can do it. But if Jalen Hurtsdoesn’t improve enough at that, then Tua will be the guy. One way or the other, either a vastly improved Jalen Hurts is throwing downfield or Tua Tagovailoa.

“And the thing about that for defenses, you go back to the Georgia game in the national championship. In the first half, I was on the sideline watching that whole thing, and Georgia stacked the line, which is what everybody does against Alabama, right? And whenever that ball would leave Jalen Hurts’ hand to go down the field, nobody on that Georgia sideline was too worried about it because they knew it probably wouldn’t be a consistent threat to be a big play. When halftime came and Tua came in, everything changed. In the second half, when the ball left Tua’s hand, everybody on that Georgia sideline held their breath because they knew there was a great likelihood that it would drop in for a big play."

Saban was not disappointed in Hurts after A-Day, saying the Crimson Tide's depth up front on the defensive line made it tough on the first-team offense. Hurts rushed for 33 yards on 15 carries, trying to escape the onslaught of pressure off the edge several times on third down. Matich believes opposing defenses will be less apt to stack the box against Alabama this season with an improved Hurts or Tagovailoa threatening the deep ball.

"I think whoever starts at quarterback will be able to complete it down the field because Jalen will either get a lot better or Tua will be the guy, and defenses will be weeping and gnashing teeth," he said.

Alabama Crimson Tide Football: ESPN analyst not sold on Tua Tagovailoa as starting QB
 
Once again, the ability to read between the lines is important. "Saban was not disappointed in Hurts after A Day" because that's what he had to say... Meanwhile during the game he was commenting negatively and mashing his teeth while Jalen wore out a path to the right sideline like the rest of us.

I'll say it over and over... There is a role for Jalen ON the field (an important one in my book)... Don't think it's as the starter. Not the way Tua can spread it around and force defenses to respect all of our players.
 
I'm not sold on Trevor Matich as an ESPN analyst.

The open mic during A Day was nothing...

He was caught with a hot mic a few times over the years. Even with AJ.

If anything, the halftime yank in the NCG could've just been the fire under Jalen's ass that he needed. I firmly believe Jalen may end up holding the starting Job.

Tua IS talented though. And a 2 QB system IS possible. Spurrier did it in the 90s. And Wisconsin has done it recently. 2 QBs talented enough to start? Why NOT use them both?



And, 2 QBs on the field at the same time is always a possibility as a wrinkle. ULM is a college team that did it a couple years back.

 
I have no idea which QB will be starter, nor do I care. Either one will be good and I think Saban has more than enough ability to pick to correct one...

Now, having said that... Why do people crown Tua the starter anyway? He played one "real" half of football and even that wasn't some sort of mind blowing half. His completion % wasn't off the charts... he threw an interception AND took a critical sack.

I know Tua has a lot of ability. He may be Head and Shoulders above Jalen in Ceiling... He may just be the best option for us... I agree with all that... but I think there is still a pretty good chance Jalen is the starter game 1... with a short leash. My personal belief is that Saban puts a TON of weight on ball protection which Jalen has proven he has....

Either way, I really don't care. I like both QBs and think each has their own Pros and Cons.
 
If #13 improves his game in all areas then he will be the Man. #2 is maxed out as a QB at Alabama. The question is about the progress (if any) of #13 going forward.

I agree. I just rewatched the national championship game two days ago on SEC network. One of the biggest things that no one talks about is the absolutely shocking difference in tempo and crispness/sharpness of the whole offense when Tua came in. The difference was Stark. I agree that Jalen Hurts has maxed out. Against lower-level teams, he can win. But against better teams the book on how to defend when he is at quarterback has been written published and distributed. Poor field vision, always moving to the right, a real absence of tempo, and the inability to throw a legitimate deep ball are characteristics that are going to be difficult to overcome even with a supposed QB Whisperer.
 
#2 is maxed out as a QB at Alabama.
If #13 improves his game in all areas then he will be the Man. #2 is maxed out as a QB at Alabama. The question is about the progress (if any) of #13 going forward.

LOL. You really have no fucking clue.
I don't know if I'd go that far, SLO. Although, I will say this: Jason Campbell. How much improvement did we see from him in one off season? Enough to lead to a 1st round pick.
 
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I do expect both of these guys to improve. I mean, they are QBs and 19 years old, how will they not improve?

I have no idea what it would take to get these guys to co-exist this season. Maybe coach Saban has a clue, a scheme he is selling, maybe not. That's mainly because it's up to Hurts and Tagovailao to make it happen and no one is getting that kind of feedback that I've heard.

And I'm sure it could just be me, but every time I see Jalen perform, I remember the tone and substance of Jalen's dad. If he didn't mean what he said, that dude is an idiot for not going on record and straightening it out. Being a head coach, that was unforgivable to start something like that. I don't see any way Alabama fans can feel good about the QB competition after that ultimatum.
 
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If #13 improves his game in all areas then he will be the Man. #2 is maxed out as a QB at Alabama. The question is about the progress (if any) of #13 going forward.

LOL. You really have no fucking clue.
That might be right....even a broken clock is correct twice a day...then again I have seen #2 play for two years and again he is what he is as a QB. When shet goes South in the pocket and he runs then he is elite. As a passer he is average or below. His play vs elite defense is documented for you sport.
 
I really don’t care who the starter is . I believe Saban knows best , but I also believe that it easier to keep kids mentally in the game if they believe they have a chance of getting the ball . Last few years most players didn’t feel they had that chance with Jalen in the game . I think that he was our leading rusher in most games and if you weren’t the first read in a pass play you probably weren’t getting the ball ..

I also believe it will be harder to recruit a top notch running back and top notch receivers with the QB being the majority of the run offence and suspect in the passing game , knowing that a stout Defence is gonna turn most pass plays to running plays .
 
I really don’t care who the starter is . I believe Saban knows best , but I also believe that it easier to keep kids mentally in the game if they believe they have a chance of getting the ball . Last few years most players didn’t feel they had that chance with Jalen in the game . I think that he was our leading rusher in most games and if you weren’t the first read in a pass play you probably weren’t getting the ball ..

I also believe it will be harder to recruit a top notch running back and top notch receivers with the QB being the majority of the run offence and suspect in the passing game , knowing that a stout Defence is gonna turn most pass plays to running plays .

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I have no idea which QB will be starter, nor do I care. Either one will be good and I think Saban has more than enough ability to pick to correct one...

Now, having said that... Why do people crown Tua the starter anyway? He played one "real" half of football and even that wasn't some sort of mind blowing half. His completion % wasn't off the charts... he threw an interception AND took a critical sack.

This is really, really off. Grad - He came in completely cold as the backup after not taking a snap with the game in doubt all season, against a great defense with a ton of momentum. Throw in the fact that Jalen had to be taking most of the practice reps, and the pressure of a National Championship game.... What he did under the circumstances was amazing. Plus he spread the ball around to like 7 different dudes in 1 half... All this combined with what we've seen with Jalen the last 4 appearances (counting A Day) is why I'm crowning him.
 
If #13 improves his game in all areas then he will be the Man. #2 is maxed out as a QB at Alabama. The question is about the progress (if any) of #13 going forward.

LOL. You really have no fucking clue.
That might be right....even a broken clock is correct twice a day...then again I have seen #2 play for two years and again he is what he is as a QB. When shet goes South in the pocket and he runs then he is elite. As a passer he is average or below. His play vs elite defense is documented for you sport.

You saying he's already at his ceiling is what you have no clue about.

How do yiu know that? Considering he had no competition to push him his 1st year, AND he was thrown to the wolves with no development. Coach Saban even admitted they hamstrung him because he was so inexperienced. AND he's had no true QB coach the last 2 years. Kiffin was too worried about having one foot out the door and Daboll was a TEs coach calling plays.

There was no real competition last year either until the NCG. So he had no real push to improve, coupled with no real QB coach. Thing is, he did improve in a lot of areas last year from year 1. @TerryP has documented those improvements in the past. But things like timing and making progressions were still a bit of a struggle because... Again... No real QB coach.

And let's not forget that he had 3 OCs in 2 years as well. Lots of inconsistency in leadership and mentoring there.

So NOW that he has an ACTUAL dedicated QB coach, who are you to say that he's maxed his potential when he's been hamstrung since he took his 1st snaps against USC? He hasn't had a CHANCE to find out where his ceiling is. But you magically know this already?

Mmkay, pumpkin.
 
I have no idea which QB will be starter, nor do I care. Either one will be good and I think Saban has more than enough ability to pick to correct one...

Now, having said that... Why do people crown Tua the starter anyway? He played one "real" half of football and even that wasn't some sort of mind blowing half. His completion % wasn't off the charts... he threw an interception AND took a critical sack.

This is really, really off. Grad - He came in completely cold as the backup after not taking a snap with the game in doubt all season, against a great defense with a ton of momentum. Throw in the fact that Jalen had to be taking most of the practice reps, and the pressure of a National Championship game.... What he did under the circumstances was amazing. Plus he spread the ball around to like 7 different dudes in 1 half... All this combined with what we've seen with Jalen the last 4 appearances (counting A Day) is why I'm crowning him.

There's 2 sides to this sword. Defenses hadn't had a chance to figure out and scheme against HIS tendencies either. Especially not UGA's. The only game film they had of him from the season was when defenses had already mailed it in. He may as well have been getting reps on air during mop-up. What we saw in the NCG could very well be an anomaly.

Only time will tell. Give defenses time to figure out HIS tendencies and I guaran-damn-tee you we'll see some chinks in HIS armor.
 
I have no idea which QB will be starter, nor do I care. Either one will be good and I think Saban has more than enough ability to pick to correct one...

Now, having said that... Why do people crown Tua the starter anyway? He played one "real" half of football and even that wasn't some sort of mind blowing half. His completion % wasn't off the charts... he threw an interception AND took a critical sack.

This is really, really off. Grad - He came in completely cold as the backup after not taking a snap with the game in doubt all season, against a great defense with a ton of momentum. Throw in the fact that Jalen had to be taking most of the practice reps, and the pressure of a National Championship game.... What he did under the circumstances was amazing. Plus he spread the ball around to like 7 different dudes in 1 half... All this combined with what we've seen with Jalen the last 4 appearances (counting A Day) is why I'm crowning him.

There's 2 sides to this sword. Defenses hadn't had a chance to figure out and scheme against HIS tendencies either. Especially not UGA's. The only game film they had of him from the season was when defenses had already mailed it in. He may as well have been getting reps on air during mop-up. What we saw in the NCG could very well be an anomaly.

Only time will tell. Give defenses time to figure out HIS tendencies and I guaran-damn-tee you we'll see some chinks in HIS armor.

That's fair.... But what tendencies are you imagine we'd see? Even if he shits the bed is it going to be worse than Jalen's?

The bottom line is that when a guy can spread the ball around like that, he's so much harder to prepare for. Because he's actually making some reads. And ultimately his ability to run is better than Jalen's ability to pass... So while he's not a running QB, he's extremely capable of getting yards and showed in the title game he can even put his head down and get tough yards. The biggest thing though is going to be his ability to anticipate... I think that's where Jalen detractors (including myself) don't see him ever being the guy again. Seems like a natural ability that is hard to vastly improve.
 
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