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Fell down a rabbit hole on EH.
The play that best encapsulates Eli Holstein wasnāt made by his rocket right arm. If you are looking for one of those, click play on his highlight tape and marvel over the array of dimes and deep balls to streaking receivers.
Zachary (La.) High School football coach David Brewerton can break down any one of those throws. However, when it comes to describing the recent Alabama commit, he has a different highlight in mind.
Brewerton points to the opening drive of a district game against rival Central High School last season. After leading Zacharyās offense into the red zone, Holstein zipped a bubble-screen pass to a receiver who caught it and began making his way upfield before having the ball jarred loose by a defender. The fumble popped up directly to a Central linebacker, who appeared to be off to the races down the field for a touchdown return.
Holstein had other plans.
Following the turnover, the 6-foot-4, 225-pound quarterback sprung into action, chasing the defender down before stripping the ball loose and recovering it back for his team. Two plays later, Zachary scored a 70-yard touchdown en route to a 47-14 victory.
āJust that play right there encompasses what heās all about,ā Brewerton said. āEli didnāt fumble the ball or throw an interception. It was something that he could have just easily watched unfold. Thatās not him. He wasnāt going to allow that to happen. Thatās something that I promise you the guys who play around him feed off of. The rest of that game wasnāt even in question because of that play.ā
Alabama isnāt recruiting Holstein for his tackling ability, but it wonāt mind if he brings that combination of athleticism and determination to Tuscaloosa in a few months. If the past three years are any indication, Brewerton believes the Crimson Tide should expect nothing less.
āTheyāre getting a kid who is addicted to work,ā Brewerton said. āHis attention to detail and his desire to be prepared is something that Iāve never really experienced as a high school coach before. Any free time he has, he spends it trying to become a better quarterback.ā
Holstein committed to Alabama on Tuesday, giving the Crimson Tide its long-awaited passer in the 2023 class. The former Texas A&M commit is rated as the No. 54 overall player and No. 8 quarterback in the nation, according to the 247Sports Composite.
While not exclusively a pocket passer, Holstein does most of his damage with his arm. During his junior season last year, he completed 65.2% of his passes for 3,228 yards and 30 touchdowns with six interceptions while leading Zachary High School to a 15-0 record and a Louisiana Class 5A title.
That being said, opposing defenses canāt sleep on his ability to pick up yards with his legs. Brewerton compares Holstein to Buffalo Bills quarterback Josh Allen, stating he is more than capable of tucking the ball and running for big gains the situation calls for it.
Holstein backed up that comparison earlier this month at the Elite 11 camp in Las Vegas where he set a SPARQ score record for quarterbacks by posting a 133.56. He accomplished that feat by recording a 4.64 time in the 40-yard dash and a 4.19 time in the shuttle. He also threw a 45.5 power ball and posted a 38.3-inch vertical.
āEli Holstein brings classic quarterback build, modern athletic traits at the position and the type of arm that can challenge a defense to all three levels,ā Sports Illustratedās director of recruiting, John Garcia Jr. said. āAt a verified 6-foot-4, 225-pounds, the Louisiana state champion will remind Crimson Tide fans of national champ Jake Coker on the hoof but ā with no disrespect to the Mobile native ā Holstein profiles as the more physically gifted version.
āHolstein is not only functionally mobile, where he can make plays in the pocket and avoid pass rushers, but he can be the type of runner an offensive coordinator actually designs plays for on occasion. Think Tim Tebow in college, at least in principle.ā
While his recent production should see him continue to rise in the national rankings, Holstein has yet to ascend to five-star status among the top recruiting services. Part of that is due to the depth of this yearās quarterback class, which features canāt-miss talents in Tennessee commit Nico Iamaleava, Southern California commit Malachi Nelson and uncommitted Dante Moore.
Thereās also that other notable quarterback out of the state of Louisiana ā Arch Manning.
According to Garcia, Holsteinās talent would put him in contention to be the nationās top quarterback in most years. This cycle, heās been largely overshadowed by a passer in his own state. Manning is the unanimous No. 1 player in the 2023 class and arguably the most-hyped recruit in college football history.
To complicate matters further for Holstein, Manning is considering Alabama as well as Georgia and Texas as his top three schools. The Crimson Tide will continue to recruit the New Orleans native in addition to Holstein. In fact, both quarterbacks will be in Tuscaloosa, Ala., to visit the Crimson Tide during the second weekend in June.
The attention surrounding Manning has to be at least a little aggravating for Holstein, who put up better numbers last season while playing against the stateās top competition. While Holstein hasnāt expressed any frustration about his underrated status, his head coach has a hard time believing he doesnāt carry some sort of chip on his shoulder.
āI donāt know how he wouldnāt when [Manning] is all you hear about,ā Brewerton said. āBut thatās the beauty of Eli, he isnāt going to let any of that affect him. All he did was go win 15 games and win a state championship in the highest classification in Louisiana.
āTo me, having that chip on your shoulder is what makes you a better competitor, to constantly believe that someone could be working as hard as you or even harder. You have to look at it from that standpoint and constantly fight to be better and better. Eli certainly does that on a daily basis.ā
Holstein certainly isnāt intimidated by Manningās presence. His commitment to Alabama came less than a week after the nationās No. 1 passer announced his upcoming trip to Tuscaloosa. In fact, competition is one of the driving factors that drew Holstein to the Crimson Tide.
According to Brewerton, Alabamaās processed approach was one of the programās most enticing aspects for his quarterback. Following meetings with Saban, Holstein would return to his high school head coach, raving about the focus on players challenging themselves and striving to become better on a daily basis.
āWhen you talk about Nick Saban and you talk about the Crimson Tide football program, youāre talking about a program that makes no bones about the fact that they are chasing perfection at all times,ā Brewerton said. āFor a kid like Eli who handles himself in that manner, thatās a strong draw. He wants to be a part of that, and he has the mindset to fit in perfectly over there.ā
Holstein will become a part of the Crimson Tideās process soon enough. A 4.0 student with a 28 score in the ACT, he is set to graduate high school early and enroll at Alabama next January. From there, Brewerton expects him to waste no time competing to fill the starting role which is likely to be vacated by projected top-five pick Bryce Young.
āHeās a sponge, man,ā Brewerton said of Holstein. āHe loves being in the film room and being in meetings. He loves just learning the game. Heāll be like a little kid on Christmas morning when he gets his hands on that playbook. Theyāre going to love him.ā
www.si.com
The play that best encapsulates Eli Holstein wasnāt made by his rocket right arm. If you are looking for one of those, click play on his highlight tape and marvel over the array of dimes and deep balls to streaking receivers.
Zachary (La.) High School football coach David Brewerton can break down any one of those throws. However, when it comes to describing the recent Alabama commit, he has a different highlight in mind.
Brewerton points to the opening drive of a district game against rival Central High School last season. After leading Zacharyās offense into the red zone, Holstein zipped a bubble-screen pass to a receiver who caught it and began making his way upfield before having the ball jarred loose by a defender. The fumble popped up directly to a Central linebacker, who appeared to be off to the races down the field for a touchdown return.
Holstein had other plans.
Following the turnover, the 6-foot-4, 225-pound quarterback sprung into action, chasing the defender down before stripping the ball loose and recovering it back for his team. Two plays later, Zachary scored a 70-yard touchdown en route to a 47-14 victory.
āJust that play right there encompasses what heās all about,ā Brewerton said. āEli didnāt fumble the ball or throw an interception. It was something that he could have just easily watched unfold. Thatās not him. He wasnāt going to allow that to happen. Thatās something that I promise you the guys who play around him feed off of. The rest of that game wasnāt even in question because of that play.ā
Alabama isnāt recruiting Holstein for his tackling ability, but it wonāt mind if he brings that combination of athleticism and determination to Tuscaloosa in a few months. If the past three years are any indication, Brewerton believes the Crimson Tide should expect nothing less.
āTheyāre getting a kid who is addicted to work,ā Brewerton said. āHis attention to detail and his desire to be prepared is something that Iāve never really experienced as a high school coach before. Any free time he has, he spends it trying to become a better quarterback.ā
Holstein committed to Alabama on Tuesday, giving the Crimson Tide its long-awaited passer in the 2023 class. The former Texas A&M commit is rated as the No. 54 overall player and No. 8 quarterback in the nation, according to the 247Sports Composite.
While not exclusively a pocket passer, Holstein does most of his damage with his arm. During his junior season last year, he completed 65.2% of his passes for 3,228 yards and 30 touchdowns with six interceptions while leading Zachary High School to a 15-0 record and a Louisiana Class 5A title.
That being said, opposing defenses canāt sleep on his ability to pick up yards with his legs. Brewerton compares Holstein to Buffalo Bills quarterback Josh Allen, stating he is more than capable of tucking the ball and running for big gains the situation calls for it.
Holstein backed up that comparison earlier this month at the Elite 11 camp in Las Vegas where he set a SPARQ score record for quarterbacks by posting a 133.56. He accomplished that feat by recording a 4.64 time in the 40-yard dash and a 4.19 time in the shuttle. He also threw a 45.5 power ball and posted a 38.3-inch vertical.
āEli Holstein brings classic quarterback build, modern athletic traits at the position and the type of arm that can challenge a defense to all three levels,ā Sports Illustratedās director of recruiting, John Garcia Jr. said. āAt a verified 6-foot-4, 225-pounds, the Louisiana state champion will remind Crimson Tide fans of national champ Jake Coker on the hoof but ā with no disrespect to the Mobile native ā Holstein profiles as the more physically gifted version.
āHolstein is not only functionally mobile, where he can make plays in the pocket and avoid pass rushers, but he can be the type of runner an offensive coordinator actually designs plays for on occasion. Think Tim Tebow in college, at least in principle.ā
While his recent production should see him continue to rise in the national rankings, Holstein has yet to ascend to five-star status among the top recruiting services. Part of that is due to the depth of this yearās quarterback class, which features canāt-miss talents in Tennessee commit Nico Iamaleava, Southern California commit Malachi Nelson and uncommitted Dante Moore.
Thereās also that other notable quarterback out of the state of Louisiana ā Arch Manning.
According to Garcia, Holsteinās talent would put him in contention to be the nationās top quarterback in most years. This cycle, heās been largely overshadowed by a passer in his own state. Manning is the unanimous No. 1 player in the 2023 class and arguably the most-hyped recruit in college football history.
To complicate matters further for Holstein, Manning is considering Alabama as well as Georgia and Texas as his top three schools. The Crimson Tide will continue to recruit the New Orleans native in addition to Holstein. In fact, both quarterbacks will be in Tuscaloosa, Ala., to visit the Crimson Tide during the second weekend in June.
The attention surrounding Manning has to be at least a little aggravating for Holstein, who put up better numbers last season while playing against the stateās top competition. While Holstein hasnāt expressed any frustration about his underrated status, his head coach has a hard time believing he doesnāt carry some sort of chip on his shoulder.
āI donāt know how he wouldnāt when [Manning] is all you hear about,ā Brewerton said. āBut thatās the beauty of Eli, he isnāt going to let any of that affect him. All he did was go win 15 games and win a state championship in the highest classification in Louisiana.
āTo me, having that chip on your shoulder is what makes you a better competitor, to constantly believe that someone could be working as hard as you or even harder. You have to look at it from that standpoint and constantly fight to be better and better. Eli certainly does that on a daily basis.ā
Holstein certainly isnāt intimidated by Manningās presence. His commitment to Alabama came less than a week after the nationās No. 1 passer announced his upcoming trip to Tuscaloosa. In fact, competition is one of the driving factors that drew Holstein to the Crimson Tide.
According to Brewerton, Alabamaās processed approach was one of the programās most enticing aspects for his quarterback. Following meetings with Saban, Holstein would return to his high school head coach, raving about the focus on players challenging themselves and striving to become better on a daily basis.
āWhen you talk about Nick Saban and you talk about the Crimson Tide football program, youāre talking about a program that makes no bones about the fact that they are chasing perfection at all times,ā Brewerton said. āFor a kid like Eli who handles himself in that manner, thatās a strong draw. He wants to be a part of that, and he has the mindset to fit in perfectly over there.ā
Holstein will become a part of the Crimson Tideās process soon enough. A 4.0 student with a 28 score in the ACT, he is set to graduate high school early and enroll at Alabama next January. From there, Brewerton expects him to waste no time competing to fill the starting role which is likely to be vacated by projected top-five pick Bryce Young.
āHeās a sponge, man,ā Brewerton said of Holstein. āHe loves being in the film room and being in meetings. He loves just learning the game. Heāll be like a little kid on Christmas morning when he gets his hands on that playbook. Theyāre going to love him.ā
What Eli Holstein is Bringing to Alabama: 'Theyāre Getting a Kid Who is Addicted to Work'
Holstein's high school head coach details what the recent Crimson Tide commit has to offer at the next level.
www.si.com
SoCalPatrick
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At least 6'2", if not a hair more.
BamaFan334
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Bama Guy
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Look like he did, #12
mando
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Have not followed so why was he at #12? What issues did he have? Honestly #12 at an elite camp is probably not to shabby but I am sure there is some info on him on what issues he had. I do not recall Mac Jones at the Elite 11 but maybe he did. I would think Mac would not have done well at a camp like this as a senior in High School.
It's a camp. Players can have bad days just like they can on the collegiate and pro level. Think of that how you may: it is probably easy to say "excuse."
This season there was a new all-time QB SPARQ Rating set by Eli in the event in Vegas leading up to this past weekend.
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mando
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Maybe a better way to ask is what strengths and weaknesses did the camp reveal?
You'll have to find the scores for each event. There's more than 10. He may have done well with screens but his timing was off on play-action. Maybe he had trouble with timing with his receivers. Or, with the exchange on option pitches.
In the Vegas event he posted a score of 133, I believe. The second place finisher was 109. We could see the scores (from this event) and find the entire group within a few points of each other.
mando
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Day 1:
www.si.com
6. Eli Holstein - Alabama
The big Louisianan powers through the football on the run and from the pocket alike. He allows targets room to go get the football on the sideline and/or up top where itās difficult for a defender to reach. Excellent mobility once again proved true; evidenced by the all-time QB athletic testing record at the Las Vegas Elite 11 Regional this spring. Holstein's arm strength is a plus from inside the pocket or on the move. He does not hesitate to make tight-window throws as heās a confident passer. The Crimson Tide commit looked consistent with short and intermediate passes regardless of whether he needed to throw the football hard or with touch.
Day 2:
www.si.com
12. Eli Holstein - Alabama
Score: 48
Money throws: 13
Day 3:
Couldn't find the day 3 summary results.
Composite:
www.si.com
12. Eli Holstein (Alabama)
Composite: 10.7
Day 1 - 6; Day 2 - 12; Day 3 - 14
2022 Elite 11 Finals: Dante Moore, Malachi Nelson lead Day 1 rankings - Sports Illustrated
Moore, the nation's top uncommitted quarterback, dominates the opening day of camp.
www.si.com
The big Louisianan powers through the football on the run and from the pocket alike. He allows targets room to go get the football on the sideline and/or up top where itās difficult for a defender to reach. Excellent mobility once again proved true; evidenced by the all-time QB athletic testing record at the Las Vegas Elite 11 Regional this spring. Holstein's arm strength is a plus from inside the pocket or on the move. He does not hesitate to make tight-window throws as heās a confident passer. The Crimson Tide commit looked consistent with short and intermediate passes regardless of whether he needed to throw the football hard or with touch.
Day 2:
Elite 11 Finals 2022: JJ Kohl, Dante Moore tie for Day 2 top spot - Sports Illustrated
Midwest quarterback prospects won the pro day-styled script competition on Wednesday.
www.si.com
12. Eli Holstein - Alabama
Score: 48
Money throws: 13
Day 3:
Couldn't find the day 3 summary results.
Composite:
Elite 11 Finals 2022: Composite ranking of country's top 20 quarterbacks - Sports Illustrated
Here are the finalized rankings based on Elite 11 prospect performances this week in Los Angeles.
www.si.com
12. Eli Holstein (Alabama)
Composite: 10.7
Day 1 - 6; Day 2 - 12; Day 3 - 14
@mando The easiest way to understand how the "evaluators" rank kids in these camps is to use gymnastics judges as a comparison. The SPARQ ratings, which I referred to earlier, give a better understanding of what kind of athlete these kids are today.
While this is a bit of an exaggeration, it's still the truth. A QB could complete an end-zone fade route that's as ugly as Jamie Christensen's kicks. The evaluators aren't looking at the end result as much as they are looking at "how pretty it was."
While this is a bit of an exaggeration, it's still the truth. A QB could complete an end-zone fade route that's as ugly as Jamie Christensen's kicks. The evaluators aren't looking at the end result as much as they are looking at "how pretty it was."
Speed, power, agility, reaction and quickness.
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