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but this week, the computers are what put Texas #2. Both human polls have Texas #4 (granted the number of points separating 2-4 aren't the large), the computers gave them a .960. the computers were the ones that jumped Texas...

But you have to understand if Florida goes to 12-1...they will have an extra win than a 11-1 Big12 South runner up. If you forget the fact that beating the number 1 team will most definitely move you up to the top two in both the AP and Coach's polls which already account to 2/3 of the BCS rankings...then you still have that extra win...which will be calculated by computers.

The only reason the computer gave an edge to Texas is because at this point nobody in the country that votes in the human polls can decide who number two is...thus divided votes.

The Harris poll is the third poll in the system, not the AP poll. The AP poll has absolutely no meaning in the BCS system.

Just look at the numbers. No, the computers give the edge to Texas because the computers remember that Texas beat Oklahoma. Humans see a 65-21 beat down of a team that beat Texas, and they are swayed by that. The computer remembers that, on the field, Texas has already beaten Oklahoma. Also, Texas has three wins over ranked teams, #3, 12, &13, where Oklahoma only has two, over #7 and 14.

You keep talking about "if Florida beats the #1 team". You are overlooking the fact that half the computers say that Texas is the #1 team. Those three computers have Bama ranked 2, 3, & 4. In those computers' "minds", Florida would only be beating the #2, 3, or 4 team depending on the computer. This is mathematical fact...all you have to do is see where the computers have Bama ranked.

Also, while Florida may end up with an extra game over Oklahoma, Oklahoma is about to pad their strength of schedule in the computers' minds by beating the #12 team while Florida beats the #20 team. And again, remember that one computer actually has Okla. State ranked 6th, ahead of Florida!

I'm sorry...but if you honestly think that Florida would get snubbed if they win the next two...then please explain 2006 to me, because using the same logic...we should have seen an Ohio State and Michigan rematch. You know why we didn't? Extra game: SEC Championship.

Well, to begin with, Florida was jumped over Michigan in the human polls also. This year, Florida is already #2 in one of the human polls.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankingsindex?seasonYear=2006&weekNumber=14&seasonType=2

And actually, your question can't really be answered without seeing how the computers had them ranked at the time. Show me where I can find that info and maybe I could tell you.

Even ESPN saw a Michigan-Ohio State rematch as a possibility, though.:

"The Game, replayed for the national title in January?
Could be.
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=263220194

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_BCS_computer_rankings

Florida was ranked an average of 4th in the computer polls going into the SEC Championship. Afterwards they were an average of 2nd...and that was after only beating Arkansas...who wasn't if I recalled #1 going into the SECCG.[/url]

 

[BamaGradinTN]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_BCS_computer_rankings

Florida was ranked an average of 4th in the computer polls going into the SEC Championship. Afterwards they were an average of 2nd...and that was after only beating Arkansas...who wasn't if I recalled #1 going into the SECCG.[/url]

Yes, but even after Florida beat Arkansas in that extra game, three computers (Billingsly, Sagarin, and Wolfe) still had Michigan ahead of Florida. Why wasn't that extra game enough to sway those three computers? In fact, there was only one computer, the Anderson and Hester computer, that "changed its mind" based on the SECCG. That's the only computer that had Michigan ahead of Fla before that game and then bumped Fla. up. The Colley/Matrix and Massey computers had Fla ahead of Michigan before the SECCG. The other three had Michigan ahead and still had them ahead after Fla won the SECCG.

You can see an easy to read table of the last two weeks of 2006 here:

http://msn.foxsports.com/id/6209880_37_1.pdf
http://msn.foxsports.com/id/6234594_37_1.pdf

You'll also notice that, in spite of the extra game, the margin between Florida and Michigan was the closest between any two teams in the top 25 except for 5-6, 10-11, and 21-22.

Here's another one: What two teams did the computers say should have been playing in the BCSCG last year? Here's a clue...one of the teams wasn't in the top 4 in either human poll.

Just goes to show that there's just no way of predicting what the computers are going to do.

 

[BamaGradinTN]

BamaCore, that Wikipedia article you gave has some interesting information about the individual computers. For example, the Colley Matrix computer does not count what were previously called D-1A teams. So Okla and Fla each have a win on the schedule that isn't counted at all by that computer.