šŸˆ CFB attendance continues slipping; its lowest point in 22 years. 4 of 5 Power Five conferences are down. Pac-12 lowest since '82. What's going on?

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CONFERENCEAVG. ATTENDANCE (2018)CHANGE (FROM 2017)NOTE
SEC74,185-1.2 percentLowest since 2003
Big Ten65,365-1.3 percentLowest since 1993
Big 1256,490-0.6 percentLowest since 2003
ACC48,609+0.3 percent
Pac-1246,588-6.1 percentLowest since 1982
AAC28,902+0.8 percent
MWC23,862-4.4 percentLowest in history
C-USA18,874-1.9 percentLowest in history
Sun Belt17,396-2.5 percentLowest since 2007
MAC15,532+0.9 percent
 
BamaFan334 said:
It's all about the costs associated with Gameday. Add in people's frustration with playing DII schools and crappy home schedules and folks just don't care to waste their money. We've all spoken on this many times before.
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I agree wholeheartedly. The solution is not hard it's getting people to want to do the right thing. Until then it's good for these fat cats to worry about the future.
 
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@TUSKtimes
Nailed it as usual. Guys are always on top of situations
HDTV 65". Is a hugh reason. Dollars for tickets. Parking, travel. All the things we have said before
I love going. Love it. Going to hang on to season tickets a little longer. But the end is in sight. Lucky to have a wife that loves it.
Cant wait for season to start. Roll Tide Roll
 
Last game I went was Shula's last year. For the privilege of taking my family (4) it ended up costing me just north of $600. That's why attendance is dropping.
 
Not only cost... but the experience. I used to be able to tailgate relatively easy at FSU games with my wife (she is an alumni). Now, there is no space to do this. Add to this the ticket cost and the hotel costing and it becomes an expensive hassle that nobody wants to undertake. It's so much easier to just watch it on TV or at an Alumni Center bar.
 
planomateo said:
It really comes down to perceived VALUE, cost is a component.

I italicized perceived, because everyone has a different notion of what this is.
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It's not a fan problem either way. They're watching every game the Crimson Tide play. Then we hit the DVR and watch it again. All the while never leaving the confines of friends, family, beer, and bar-b-q. When fans don't show up it's a University problem. Looks to me like these guys better hurry up and perceive how to fix it. The home and home series is one step in the right direction. What's next?
 
TUSKtimes said:
It's not a fan problem either way. They're watching every game the Crimson Tide play. Then we hit the DVR and watch it again. All the while never leaving the confines of friends, family, beer, and bar-b-q. When fans don't show up it's a University problem. Looks to me like these guys better hurry up and perceive how to fix it. The home and home series is one step in the right direction. What's next?
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I don't see the cost of attendence going down in the near future, perhaps after Saban.

So they'll have to improve the experience to provide the value.
 
planomateo said:
I don't see the cost of attendence going down in the near future, perhaps after Saban.

So they'll have to improve the experience to provide the value.
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Which probably brings us to the last stadium expansion plans. Turning BDS into six flags over Tuscaloosa is a gamble but it's part of this new age fan experience. Making the fans as interactive as possible with events and other special places, with unlimited wifi, cause they are staring at that thing regardless, is also I'm sure in the works.

So to surmise, if we keep playing the directional schools the administration better make BDS about as fan friendly as humanly possible and drop those prices so that the people who only get to A-Day will be willing to grab the kids and fill the stadium. When Texas and Notre Dame show up it won't matter nearly as much.
 
BamaFan334 said:
It's all about the costs associated with Gameday. Add in people's frustration with playing DII schools and crappy home schedules and folks just don't care to waste their money. We've all spoken on this many times before.
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Look at the SEC and the B1G. On one hand, you've got the scheduling of SEC schools which we've spoken about. On the other hand there's the conference moving away from FCS games, playing more conference games, and there's really no discernible difference in their two numbers.

Two different situations with the same numbers. Can it really be attributed to "playing DII schools and crappy home schedules?"

FWIW, the change for Bama was minuscule with a little over 200 fans difference between 2017 and 2018.

2018 101561
2017 101722
 
TerryP said:
Look at the SEC and the B1G. On one hand, you've got the scheduling of SEC schools which we've spoken about. On the other hand there's the conference moving away from FCS games, playing more conference games, and there's really no discernible difference in their two numbers.

Two different situations with the same numbers. Can it really be attributed to "playing DII schools and crappy home schedules?"

FWIW, the change for Bama was minuscule with a little over 200 fans difference between 2017 and 2018.

2018 101561
2017 101722
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In a place where we claim college football means more, I think if you pit solid teams against each other you're gonna have more people show up. Wait till Texas and Notre Dame come to town and I bet attendance for those years will be better than this Fall or last Fall. I say this makinh a point that Oklahoma and Texas have been traveling to Ohio State and we still see similar numbers between conferences, so with more bigger games our numbers in the SEC will show a nice gap. Didn't read the article, but are they counting neutral site games? If not, those take away a lot from SEC schools that participate more there than other conferences because we bring the crowds and interest.

When that extra conference game is bringing in Illinois, Maryland, Rutgers, Nebraska, and others that aren't moving the bar, I don't consider that a fair comparison, because those teams really have zero value as of late. I'm not saying we need to add Southern Miss instead of Western Carolina to get attendance up, just more competitive teams that create interest.
 
BamaFan334 said:
I think if you pit solid teams against each other you're gonna have more people show up
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Oh, I agree. We're talking about another 99 people (on average) in '17, and another 250 or so last season. That's not much of a difference, right?
BamaFan334 said:
When that extra conference game is bringing in Illinois, Maryland, Rutgers, Nebraska, and others that aren't moving the bar, I don't consider that a fair comparison, because those teams really have zero value as of late
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We're certainly on the same page here. I'd love the move to nine conference games if for any other reason than simply leveling the playing field around the conference. But, quite frankly, adding the ninth game and it's Vanderbilt, or someone like Mizzou, isn't going to have that big of an impact on attendance. In this era, Bama is blowing them all out.

We've seen the #BamaProblems over the last decade. Attendance, in my view, isn't one.
 
By the way, the most egregious mistake in this whole column is found here:

Yes, KISS, the face-painted classic rock band that is on yet another farewell tour fronted by 69-year-old lead singer Gene Simmons.
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Err, Paul Stanley.
 
As @TerryP stated. If 9th game for us is vandy or usce or ky or Missouri nobody is beating door down. But still better that wku or ark state or middle tenn or New Mexico
So 9 th game will help
Second. Don't believe the attendance bullshit. May be ticket sold but not seats filled
Applies to most schools but other schools having bama on schedule helps them
And. Who really cares if 100K or 90k show up except bama. So its a bama problem. Fans dont need to worry bout fixing... field is same for us.
They need to look at audience. Blasting us seniors ( who make up a tremendous part of crowd ) with rap shit aint real smart. What percentage of audience are older .... we r about close to giving it up. When saban leaves they will need us back!!!!
Interactive stuff. We'll see.
 
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