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The president of Ohio State University said Notre Dame was never invited to join the Big Ten because the university's priests are not good partners, joking that "those damn Catholics" can't be trusted, according to a recording of a meeting Gee attended late last year.
At the December meeting of the school's Athletics Council, Gordon Gee took shots at schools in the Southeastern Conference and the University of Louisville, according to the recording, obtained by The Associated Press under a public records request.
The university called the statements inappropriate and said Gee is undergoing a "remediation plan" because of the remarks.
Gee apologized in a statement released to the AP.
"The comments I made were just plain wrong, and in no way do they reflect what the university stands for," he said. "They were a poor attempt at humor and entirely inappropriate."
Gee, who has taken heat previously for uncouth remarks, told members of the council that he negotiated with Notre Dame officials during his first term at Ohio State, which began more than two decades ago.
"The fathers are holy on Sunday, and they're holy hell on the rest of the week," Gee said to laughter at the Dec. 5 meeting attended by Athletic Director Gene Smith and several other athletic department members, along with professors and students.
"You just can't trust those damn Catholics on a Thursday or a Friday, and so, literally, I can say that," said Gee, a Mormon.
The Big Ten had for years courted Notre Dame, but the school resisted, seeking to retain its independent status in college football. The school announced in September that it would join the Athletic Coast Conference in all sports except football. It also agreed to play five football games each year against ACC teams.
In the recording, Gee referred specifically to dealing with the Rev. Ned Joyce, Notre Dame's longtime chief financial officer, who died in 2004.
"Father Joyce was one of those people who ran the university for many, many years," Gee said.
Gee said the Athletic Coast Conference added Notre Dame at a time when it was feeling vulnerable.
"Notre Dame wanted to have its cake and eat it, too," Gee said, according to the recording and a copy of the meeting's minutes.
Gee was introduced by Athletic Council then-chairman Charlie Wilson, and Gee's name and introduction are included in written minutes of the meeting. Gee's comments drew laughter, at times loud, occasionally nervous, but no rebukes, according to the audio.
The Athletic Council meets monthly during the fall, winter and spring and makes recommendations on athletic policy including ticket prices. December's meeting was at Ohio Stadium.
During his comments to the Athletic Council, Gee also questioned the academic integrity of schools in the Southeastern Conference, and the University of Louisville.
The top goal of Big Ten presidents is to "make certain that we have institutions of like-minded academic integrity," Gee said. "So you won't see us adding Louisville," a member of the Big East conference that is also joining the ACC.
After a pause followed by laughter from the audience, Gee added that the Big Ten wouldn't add the University of Kentucky, either.
During the meeting, Gee also said he thought it was a mistake not to include Missouri and Kansas in earlier Big Ten expansion plans. Missouri has since joined the SEC.
"You tell the SEC when they can learn to read and write, then they can figure out what we're doing," Gee said, when asked by a questioner how to respond to SEC fans who say the Big Ten can't count because it now has 14 members.
Gee noted he was chairman of the SEC during his time as Vanderbilt University chancellor. He also told his audience that speculation about the SEC "remains right here," according to the recording.
Gee took a swipe at Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delaney, one of the most powerful leaders in college athletics, when he answered a question about preserving Ohio State's financial interests in light of Big Ten revenue-sharing plans.
"No one admires Jim Delaney more than I do ā I chaired the committee that brought him here," Gee said. "Jim is very aggressive, and we need to make certain he keeps his hands out of our pockets while we support him."
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The president of Ohio State University said Notre Dame was never invited to join the Big Ten because the university's priests are not good partners, joking that "those damn Catholics" can't be trusted, according to a recording of a meeting Gee attended late last year.
At the December meeting of the school's Athletics Council, Gordon Gee took shots at schools in the Southeastern Conference and the University of Louisville, according to the recording, obtained by The Associated Press under a public records request.
The university called the statements inappropriate and said Gee is undergoing a "remediation plan" because of the remarks.
Gee apologized in a statement released to the AP.
"The comments I made were just plain wrong, and in no way do they reflect what the university stands for," he said. "They were a poor attempt at humor and entirely inappropriate."
Gee, who has taken heat previously for uncouth remarks, told members of the council that he negotiated with Notre Dame officials during his first term at Ohio State, which began more than two decades ago.
"The fathers are holy on Sunday, and they're holy hell on the rest of the week," Gee said to laughter at the Dec. 5 meeting attended by Athletic Director Gene Smith and several other athletic department members, along with professors and students.
"You just can't trust those damn Catholics on a Thursday or a Friday, and so, literally, I can say that," said Gee, a Mormon.
The Big Ten had for years courted Notre Dame, but the school resisted, seeking to retain its independent status in college football. The school announced in September that it would join the Athletic Coast Conference in all sports except football. It also agreed to play five football games each year against ACC teams.
In the recording, Gee referred specifically to dealing with the Rev. Ned Joyce, Notre Dame's longtime chief financial officer, who died in 2004.
"Father Joyce was one of those people who ran the university for many, many years," Gee said.
Gee said the Athletic Coast Conference added Notre Dame at a time when it was feeling vulnerable.
"Notre Dame wanted to have its cake and eat it, too," Gee said, according to the recording and a copy of the meeting's minutes.
Gee was introduced by Athletic Council then-chairman Charlie Wilson, and Gee's name and introduction are included in written minutes of the meeting. Gee's comments drew laughter, at times loud, occasionally nervous, but no rebukes, according to the audio.
The Athletic Council meets monthly during the fall, winter and spring and makes recommendations on athletic policy including ticket prices. December's meeting was at Ohio Stadium.
During his comments to the Athletic Council, Gee also questioned the academic integrity of schools in the Southeastern Conference, and the University of Louisville.
The top goal of Big Ten presidents is to "make certain that we have institutions of like-minded academic integrity," Gee said. "So you won't see us adding Louisville," a member of the Big East conference that is also joining the ACC.
After a pause followed by laughter from the audience, Gee added that the Big Ten wouldn't add the University of Kentucky, either.
During the meeting, Gee also said he thought it was a mistake not to include Missouri and Kansas in earlier Big Ten expansion plans. Missouri has since joined the SEC.
"You tell the SEC when they can learn to read and write, then they can figure out what we're doing," Gee said, when asked by a questioner how to respond to SEC fans who say the Big Ten can't count because it now has 14 members.
Gee noted he was chairman of the SEC during his time as Vanderbilt University chancellor. He also told his audience that speculation about the SEC "remains right here," according to the recording.
Gee took a swipe at Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delaney, one of the most powerful leaders in college athletics, when he answered a question about preserving Ohio State's financial interests in light of Big Ten revenue-sharing plans.
"No one admires Jim Delaney more than I do ā I chaired the committee that brought him here," Gee said. "Jim is very aggressive, and we need to make certain he keeps his hands out of our pockets while we support him."
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YahooForde: Bowtie's bombast reminds me what Nick Saban said Tuesday: Leaders should be able to speak publicly without insulting others (paraphrase).
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Bowtie's bombast reminds me what Nick Saban said Tuesday: Leaders should be able to speak publicly without insulting others (paraphrase).
ā Pat Forde (@YahooForde) May 30, 2013
ā Pat Forde (@YahooForde) May 30, 2013
odds on OSU President E.Gordon Gee keeping his job 5:7 against;odds on more double talk & offensive comments from him:"off the board"
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"Later on Gordon Gee came out of the closet and said he was sissy and knew that he fit in well with the ACC, and that everyone in the ACC should come out and admit they are sissies, that way when the SEC beats the heck out of us and the Dark Lord at Bama makes Urby cry again and get sick we got an excuse!"
You Know-
alot of times- you can open your mouth
and ALL kinds of crap comes out of it
before you Realize what you've said.
With a name Like GEE.
And with a "brain" like this.
I think - I'd Shut Up
and DRINK by myself.
So I don't have as big of a MESS
to Clean up the Next Day.
But I will buy him a beer
when we play them next
(WHENEVER THAT MAY BE)
and Beat the Crap
outta Urbans Buckeyes.
I'm just wondering if his
current QB- has a Cryin towel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVMV_fig6hM
Cheers :animbeer7io:
alot of times- you can open your mouth
and ALL kinds of crap comes out of it
before you Realize what you've said.
With a name Like GEE.
And with a "brain" like this.
I think - I'd Shut Up
and DRINK by myself.
So I don't have as big of a MESS
to Clean up the Next Day.
But I will buy him a beer
when we play them next
(WHENEVER THAT MAY BE)
and Beat the Crap
outta Urbans Buckeyes.
I'm just wondering if his
current QB- has a Cryin towel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVMV_fig6hM
Cheers :animbeer7io:
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@Andy_Staples: I wrote a column on Gordon Gee, which is pretty astounding. You know, because Iām illiterate.
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DESTIN, Fla. -- According to Ohio State president Gordon Gee, this column should be riddled with misspellings, grammar gaffes and run-on sentences. I'm illiterate, you see. I graduated from a school that belongs to the Southeastern Conference. Gee, the former Vanderbilt chancellor who never once declined a cut of bowl money his school didn't earn, survived his six years in the South to return to the ivory towers of the Big Ten so he could report -- like Jane Goodall describing the great apes -- on the academic deficiencies of the football factories below the Mason-Dixon Line.
At a meeting of Ohio State's Athletic Council on Dec. 5, someone asked Gee how to respond to the nuclear physicists in SEC country who find it hilarious that an 11-team conference that expanded to 12 and then 14 schools still calls itself the Big Ten. "You tell the SEC when they can learn to read and write, then they can figure out what we're doing," Gee cracked, according to an audio recording of the meeting obtained by The Associated Press. I tried to seek a response from the SEC graduates and employees gathered here on the Redneck Riviera for the SEC's annual spring meetings, but they were all crammed into a hallway trying to decipher runes next to a stick figure of someone in a dress on a wall sign. I escaped only because, once, during a trip to East Lansing for work, a wise Big Ten graduate taught me to sound out W-O-M-E-N so I might avoid the embarrassment of wandering into the incorrect lavatory.
In Gee's defense, he probably once knew that "the SEC" is a singular entity and that he should have used "it" instead of "they," but six years spent at an SEC school -- the good one, no less -- probably siphoned off the brain cells that control plural-singular agreement.
At least I'm not Catholic. Then Gee might really think ill of me. He ripped Catholics, Notre Dame and specifically late school CFO Edmund Joyce. "The fathers are holy on Sunday, and they're holy hell on the rest of the week," Gee said. Later, he said, "You just can't trust those damn Catholics on a Thursday or a Friday, and so, literally, I can say that." Just imagine if Father Joyce had run the Little Sisters of the Poor, the Catholic institution whose football programs Gee holds in such contempt.
This is the part where, as a certified Internet writer-type-person, I'm supposed to call for Jim Tressel to fire Gordon Gee. (He can still do that, right?) But I won't. Because while we have thinner books, we SEC grads have thicker skin. Gee was clearly joking. Poorly. But joking nonetheless.
Catholics may take more offense, but Gee is lucky he picked one of the handful of faiths people are allowed to publicly mock without becoming pariahs. The fine folks at Louisville, the school Gee singled out for academic failings, might be more than a little angry. Louisville's Tom Jurich, one of the smartest athletic directors in the country, might have a few ideas about how to rearrange Gee's bow tie. But those offended should understand that these are merely the words of a man accustomed to chewing on tasseled loafers. Gee has issued a statement of apology and called Notre Dame president John Jenkins to personally apologize. At this point, Gee's assistant probably has an apology template reminiscent of a Mad Lib.
I offer my deepest and sincerest apologies to anyone who was offended by my comments about ____________ (enter name of insulted school/religion/ethnic group). I did not choose my words carefully, and my statements did not reflect the opinion of _________ (The Ohio State University/the state of Ohio/the Big Ten/bowtie wearers/all of the above).
Gee is far too valuable to Ohio State to allow his wayward mouth to derail his administration. He's a fundraising powerhouse who, according to Dayton Daily News, helped raise more than $1.6 billion for the school in his first five years on the job. Badmouthing a major world religion and a football cult that might be overzealous shouldn't stop Gee. We all say stupid things. Some of us elect to write stupid things.
Gee didn't whip basketballs at anyone's head. He wasn't stealing, though $532 in university funds for a shower curtain might be considered at least petty larceny. He just opened his mouth and said something dumb in a public meeting.
Now, the people who got their chops busted by Gee get to bust his chops right back. Instead of getting offended, we can just laugh. Because when Gordon Gee opens his mouth, what comes out is usually funny -- though not necessarily in the way Gee intended.
Besides, Gee is correct. In the aggregate, the schools of the Big Ten are academically superior to the schools of the SEC. And if you don't believe that, just ask the Big Ten grad who on Wednesday celebrated a "unanimous" 13-1 SEC scheduling vote.
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I wrote a column on Gordon Gee, which is pretty astounding. You know, because Iām illiterate. sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-footbaā¦
ā Andy Staples (@Andy_Staples) May 30, 2013
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DESTIN, Fla. -- According to Ohio State president Gordon Gee, this column should be riddled with misspellings, grammar gaffes and run-on sentences. I'm illiterate, you see. I graduated from a school that belongs to the Southeastern Conference. Gee, the former Vanderbilt chancellor who never once declined a cut of bowl money his school didn't earn, survived his six years in the South to return to the ivory towers of the Big Ten so he could report -- like Jane Goodall describing the great apes -- on the academic deficiencies of the football factories below the Mason-Dixon Line.
At a meeting of Ohio State's Athletic Council on Dec. 5, someone asked Gee how to respond to the nuclear physicists in SEC country who find it hilarious that an 11-team conference that expanded to 12 and then 14 schools still calls itself the Big Ten. "You tell the SEC when they can learn to read and write, then they can figure out what we're doing," Gee cracked, according to an audio recording of the meeting obtained by The Associated Press. I tried to seek a response from the SEC graduates and employees gathered here on the Redneck Riviera for the SEC's annual spring meetings, but they were all crammed into a hallway trying to decipher runes next to a stick figure of someone in a dress on a wall sign. I escaped only because, once, during a trip to East Lansing for work, a wise Big Ten graduate taught me to sound out W-O-M-E-N so I might avoid the embarrassment of wandering into the incorrect lavatory.
In Gee's defense, he probably once knew that "the SEC" is a singular entity and that he should have used "it" instead of "they," but six years spent at an SEC school -- the good one, no less -- probably siphoned off the brain cells that control plural-singular agreement.
At least I'm not Catholic. Then Gee might really think ill of me. He ripped Catholics, Notre Dame and specifically late school CFO Edmund Joyce. "The fathers are holy on Sunday, and they're holy hell on the rest of the week," Gee said. Later, he said, "You just can't trust those damn Catholics on a Thursday or a Friday, and so, literally, I can say that." Just imagine if Father Joyce had run the Little Sisters of the Poor, the Catholic institution whose football programs Gee holds in such contempt.
This is the part where, as a certified Internet writer-type-person, I'm supposed to call for Jim Tressel to fire Gordon Gee. (He can still do that, right?) But I won't. Because while we have thinner books, we SEC grads have thicker skin. Gee was clearly joking. Poorly. But joking nonetheless.
Catholics may take more offense, but Gee is lucky he picked one of the handful of faiths people are allowed to publicly mock without becoming pariahs. The fine folks at Louisville, the school Gee singled out for academic failings, might be more than a little angry. Louisville's Tom Jurich, one of the smartest athletic directors in the country, might have a few ideas about how to rearrange Gee's bow tie. But those offended should understand that these are merely the words of a man accustomed to chewing on tasseled loafers. Gee has issued a statement of apology and called Notre Dame president John Jenkins to personally apologize. At this point, Gee's assistant probably has an apology template reminiscent of a Mad Lib.
I offer my deepest and sincerest apologies to anyone who was offended by my comments about ____________ (enter name of insulted school/religion/ethnic group). I did not choose my words carefully, and my statements did not reflect the opinion of _________ (The Ohio State University/the state of Ohio/the Big Ten/bowtie wearers/all of the above).
Gee is far too valuable to Ohio State to allow his wayward mouth to derail his administration. He's a fundraising powerhouse who, according to Dayton Daily News, helped raise more than $1.6 billion for the school in his first five years on the job. Badmouthing a major world religion and a football cult that might be overzealous shouldn't stop Gee. We all say stupid things. Some of us elect to write stupid things.
Gee didn't whip basketballs at anyone's head. He wasn't stealing, though $532 in university funds for a shower curtain might be considered at least petty larceny. He just opened his mouth and said something dumb in a public meeting.
Now, the people who got their chops busted by Gee get to bust his chops right back. Instead of getting offended, we can just laugh. Because when Gordon Gee opens his mouth, what comes out is usually funny -- though not necessarily in the way Gee intended.
Besides, Gee is correct. In the aggregate, the schools of the Big Ten are academically superior to the schools of the SEC. And if you don't believe that, just ask the Big Ten grad who on Wednesday celebrated a "unanimous" 13-1 SEC scheduling vote.
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http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-fo...sults-notre-dame-catholics-fundraiser-muslims
What I love, is the fact that a school president has to resort to this...especially when they want to come across as smarter and better. Wouldn't smarter and better not even go this direction to begin with...why pick on those who are lesser than you as he is obviously insinuating
His comments didn't spin me up at all, I just think its funny that he wants to go tug on superman's cape...
What I love, is the fact that a school president has to resort to this...especially when they want to come across as smarter and better. Wouldn't smarter and better not even go this direction to begin with...why pick on those who are lesser than you as he is obviously insinuating
His comments didn't spin me up at all, I just think its funny that he wants to go tug on superman's cape...
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Todd_Blackledge: ā@JayBilas: The malady affecting Ohio State President Gordon Gee is clearly identified. http://t.co/os6sriQJMAā very funny!
Todd_Blackledge: ā@JayBilas: The malady affecting Ohio State President Gordon Gee is clearly identified. http://t.co/os6sriQJMAā very funny!
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Todd_Blackledge: ā@JayBilas: The malady affecting Ohio State President Gordon Gee is clearly identified. http://t.co/os6sriQJMAā very funny!
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