🏈 Alabama loses 2 incoming players to academics

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TUSCALOOSA —
Two incoming Alabama football players didn’t academically qualify, coach Nick Saban said today.

Running back Bo Scarbrough from Northport plans to work on earning enough credits to qualify during the fall and enroll at Alabama in January.

However, there’s a slim chance of him making it this fall.

“We have an appeal in place because he is very close to qualifying,” Saban said. “That will take some time. We will have a plan here at his high school to try to do the things that he needs to do to finish and be able to qualify.”

Offensive lineman Montel McBride from Plant City, Florida, decided to attend junior college and attempt to return to Alabama later. He joined Western Iowa Community College this week.

“Montel McBride did not qualify and will be placed in junior college,” Saban said.


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[PhillyGirl]

:over:More good news

 

[BamaFan334]

I just can't imagine how these guys aren't qualifying. High school is handed to you on a platter, and these kids are having trouble qualifying. I'm sorry, but if you're having trouble in high school, college will eat you alive whether you care or not.

How does Scarborough transfer away from Northport to IMG and then not qualify? Did they seriously not look into this before the Spring semester of 2014?

 

[XXL TideFan]

WTF!

 

[sean]

wasn't there a player back a little while that was told he had qualified and then when they (the ncaa) looked again a few months later they said he didn't?

 

[psychojoe]

Alfy Hill

 

[TerryP]

@sk33tr, a point of note about Alfy Hill goes to something @BamaFan334 touches on. When Alfy had the right structure in place, combined with the right support, he didn't have academic issues. He was doing well in his classes at UA.

If there's anywhere to look and cast blame in all of this it's directly at the NCAA. What classes they decide are credible, which schools they approve, and how they reach those decisions is not just questionable, it's downright laughable.

BTW, with Alfy, it's important to remember it wasn't a case of him not passing/graduating, it was a case of the NCAA not approving one of his classes (online course.)

 

[BamaFan334]

An online class in high school or college? If we're talking high school, when did they start giving those?

Why aren't all of these guys on the College Prepratory Diploma path? Does that change state to state and school to school. I only know enough about this to ask more question, because I still can't imagine how these guys can't get qualified. Instead of trying to work the system and leaving any potential doubt, just go to class and make C's and a B if it's that big of a challenge.

 

[TheChief]

I had a high school athlete, once upon a time, who took an online class from Stanford. He didn't have much trouble qualifying.

 

[TheChief]

Oh, and I remember having over a million Bama bucks at the end of last season. Did you guys take my money and go to Vegas? Geesh

 

[TerryP]

An online class in high school or college? If we're talking high school, when did they start giving those?

Why aren't all of these guys on the College Prepratory Diploma path? Does that change state to state and school to school. I only know enough about this to ask more question, because I still can't imagine how these guys can't get qualified. Instead of trying to work the system and leaving any potential doubt, just go to class and make C's and a B if it's that big of a challenge.

Online in high school with Alfy and Bo. I couldn't tell you when it started bit it's been an issue that's created some problems for five or more years now. There have been cases where the NCAA Clearinghouse has denied credit for classes that were AP classes when allowing other classes that were much easier, required less work, to float right through the system.

The path changes from state to state. You never can tell what's happening at the school itself. We've had players who have been told they needed a specific class, their guidance counselor places them in the wrong class, and they end up having to re-take a class because of the mistake on the counselor. Some guidance counselors don't give a damn. Some go as far as to change entire transcripts to make sure kids qualify.

It's a messed up system and to only question the athlete is short-sighted. Unfortunately, a lot do.

 

[alabama mike]

It is a messed up system to say the least. Graduation requirements vary from state to state. ACT and SAT scores vary going to college based on your overall GPA. Most kids get in trouble with credits in their first year or two of high school and have trouble making those credits up bc they are tring to stay eligible with harder classes their last two years. I deal with kids every day where just making it to school is a major accomplishment besides having their homework, paper and pencils. Some read at a very low level and do not perform well on state mandated testing. Not everyone has someone at home who pushes a good education and achievement, for many kids it's about survival.

 

[BamaFan334]

Online in high school with Alfy and Bo. I couldn't tell you when it started bit it's been an issue that's created some problems for five or more years now. There have been cases where the NCAA Clearinghouse has denied credit for classes that were AP classes when allowing other classes that were much easier, required less work, to float right through the system.

The path changes from state to state. You never can tell what's happening at the school itself. We've had players who have been told they needed a specific class, their guidance counselor places them in the wrong class, and they end up having to re-take a class because of the mistake on the counselor. Some guidance counselors don't give a damn. Some go as far as to change entire transcripts to make sure kids qualify.

It's a messed up system and to only question the athlete is short-sighted. Unfortunately, a lot do.

I understand. I guess it was never an issue with me because I had a checklist and made sure I knocked out those classes based on the College Preparatory requirements. I guess I need to be a little more understanding that some kid's parents don't give a shit, nor do their teachers, counselors, or even friends. Pretty sad to think about when you break it all down. Very sad.

 

[TerryP]

I understand. I guess it was never an issue with me because I had a checklist and made sure I knocked out those classes based on the College Preparatory requirements. I guess I need to be a little more understanding that some kid's parents don't give a shit, nor do their teachers, counselors, or even friends. Pretty sad to think about when you break it all down. Very sad.

I've heard enough stories that have shaped my opinions on some aspects of the school systems that they rival my opinions of the Clearinghouse.

There's a post of some length I made a year or so again breaking down just how screwed up the Clearinghouse is today...did a brief search this morning for it...I'll try again tonight or tomorrow morning. I was shocked when I started reading about what's accepted, what's not, and how little a students well being is considered.

 

[Brandon Van de Graaff]

Some of these guys get behind so early that it's just too difficult to make up in the time they have left. It's not always a case of guys struggling their entire HS tenure to make the grades... they just get buried behind the 8 ball before they realize that they have to make the grades. Obviously, each case differs, but I've seen time and time again how students just don't take it seriously. When they finally do, they do fine (and in some cases excel like Anthony Madison did).