| FTBL A rule change NEEDED in overtime. Disturbed me...

TerryP

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I don't know how many of you guys watched the UK vs UT game this past weekend. I saw something in one of the overtimes that shocked me, and I feel there has to be some move in the off season made or we'll likely have someone seriously injured at some point.

At the end of one of the OT periods, Woodson threw an INT. As UT playing "pitch and catch" trying to advance the ball one of the UK players grabbed a UT player by the face mask and took him down forcefully. Blatant, personal foul. The kind of foul that could break a neck almost. BUT, besides the flag and penalty call, there was nothing enforced!

Why?

Because in OT, a penalty on the last possession means nothing. It isn't carried over to the next period in that case.

Yet, later on in the game after UK scored there was a penalty on UT, enforced because they had possession of the ball, and they started from the 45.

Granted, a penalty to end a ball game can't be enforced. But, if there is one in OT and the teams are going to the next period there should be something enforced.
 
TerryP said:
I don't know how many of you guys watched the UK vs UT game this past weekend. I saw something in one of the overtimes that shocked me, and I feel there has to be some move in the off season made or we'll likely have someone seriously injured at some point.

At the end of one of the OT periods, Woodson threw an INT. As UT playing "pitch and catch" trying to advance the ball one of the UK players grabbed a UT player by the face mask and took him down forcefully. Blatant, personal foul. The kind of foul that could break a neck almost. BUT, besides the flag and penalty call, there was nothing enforced!

Why?

Because in OT, a penalty on the last possession means nothing. It isn't carried over to the next period in that case.

Yet, later on in the game after UK scored there was a penalty on UT, enforced because they had possession of the ball, and they started from the 45.

Granted, a penalty to end a ball game can't be enforced. But, if there is one in OT and the teams are going to the next period there should be something enforced.

The rule is that everything that happens after a turnover is null. I disagree with it as well. The other penalty was the TN back spiking the ball when they couldn't get in on the two point conversion. Since TN started possession on the next OT period, they moved them back to the 40 and they immediately hit a 40 yard strike for a TD.
 
It Takes Eleven said:
TerryP said:
I don't know how many of you guys watched the UK vs UT game this past weekend. I saw something in one of the overtimes that shocked me, and I feel there has to be some move in the off season made or we'll likely have someone seriously injured at some point.

At the end of one of the OT periods, Woodson threw an INT. As UT playing "pitch and catch" trying to advance the ball one of the UK players grabbed a UT player by the face mask and took him down forcefully. Blatant, personal foul. The kind of foul that could break a neck almost. BUT, besides the flag and penalty call, there was nothing enforced!

Why?

Because in OT, a penalty on the last possession means nothing. It isn't carried over to the next period in that case.

Yet, later on in the game after UK scored there was a penalty on UT, enforced because they had possession of the ball, and they started from the 45.

Granted, a penalty to end a ball game can't be enforced. But, if there is one in OT and the teams are going to the next period there should be something enforced.

The rule is that everything that happens after a turnover is null. I disagree with it as well. The other penalty was the TN back spiking the ball when they couldn't get in on the two point conversion. Since TN started possession on the next OT period, they moved them back to the 40 and they immediately hit a 40 yard strike for a TD.

Wait a second. Everything that happens after a turnover is null? Does that apply only in OT or during regulation as well. I didn't know that if it's the case. The way it was described by the ref he said something about it being related to the OT period...if I recall correctly.
 
TerryP said:
It Takes Eleven said:
TerryP said:
I don't know how many of you guys watched the UK vs UT game this past weekend. I saw something in one of the overtimes that shocked me, and I feel there has to be some move in the off season made or we'll likely have someone seriously injured at some point.

At the end of one of the OT periods, Woodson threw an INT. As UT playing "pitch and catch" trying to advance the ball one of the UK players grabbed a UT player by the face mask and took him down forcefully. Blatant, personal foul. The kind of foul that could break a neck almost. BUT, besides the flag and penalty call, there was nothing enforced!

Why?

Because in OT, a penalty on the last possession means nothing. It isn't carried over to the next period in that case.

Yet, later on in the game after UK scored there was a penalty on UT, enforced because they had possession of the ball, and they started from the 45.

Granted, a penalty to end a ball game can't be enforced. But, if there is one in OT and the teams are going to the next period there should be something enforced.

The rule is that everything that happens after a turnover is null. I disagree with it as well. The other penalty was the TN back spiking the ball when they couldn't get in on the two point conversion. Since TN started possession on the next OT period, they moved them back to the 40 and they immediately hit a 40 yard strike for a TD.

Wait a second. Everything that happens after a turnover is null? Does that apply only in OT or during regulation as well. I didn't know that if it's the case. The way it was described by the ref he said something about it being related to the OT period...if I recall correctly.

No, just in OT. I haven't seen a replay, but the official say something like, "by rule, penalties after a TO in OT are not assessed."

I love it when they begin a statement saying "by rule". That means what follows is not likely to be logical. :D

RTR,

Tim
 
I also thought you couldn't run a blocked field goal back in overtime? That's when the penalty happened I believe, when UT blocked the potential game winning field goal in the 2nd or 3rd overtime? I was under the impression that you can't run it back in OT?
 
Overtime in CF totally stinks.. They need to figure out a more attractive way to end a nail biter. Hard to believe thats the best they can come up with.
RTR
 
bamanaf said:
Overtime in CF totally stinks.. They need to figure out a more attractive way to end a nail biter. Hard to believe thats the best they can come up with.
RTR

I could not disagree more. I love the way college football settles overtime and wish the NFL would adopt it instead of sudden death.
 
If after a turnover in overtime the team which recovered has a chance to run it back, then penalties should be enforced also.

Otherwise, just blow the play dead after a turnover.
 
I thought the same thing as most of you guys.

If a team picks off a pass (or block a kick, fumble return etc.) why not just bring a player off the bench to make a tackle? (of course when Bama tried that the other team was awarded a TD anyway) Who was that against? Rice maybe? Dickie Neagle maybe? Anybody have that video? Its good for a laugh or two!
 
Outlaw said:
I also thought you couldn't run a blocked field goal back in overtime? That's when the penalty happened I believe, when UT blocked the potential game winning field goal in the 2nd or 3rd overtime? I was under the impression that you can't run it back in OT?

I was wrong after looking the rules up. I was told in high school that we couldn't run an interception/fumble/etc. back for a TD, and I thought college football and high school overtime rules were the same.

Carry on...
 
yea i agree that rule should be changed. they should've had a 15-yarder starting the next OT period.

but, i keep hearing ppl talking about what a piece of crap that guy that made the face mask tackle was and that there was no call for that. i totally disagree. if i was in his situation and saving a tackle and prollyt the game (at the moment) meant grabbing ahold of that guys face mask and snatching him down, i woulda done the same thing. smart move imo. he saved the TD and gave his team a chance to win.
 
I understand the rule but dont agree with it at all. I think its really stupid. There are 2 different types of personal fouls by the rule book. My ex roomate is an offical. He does some SEC games but mainly smaller schools like Jax State & Troy. He explained it to me so i understand it now but dont agree with it. He also said that they were looking into changing it for the 07 season but didnt. They probally will look at changing it in 08.

Side note he is also a pilot and was the one that flew CNS to T-Town when he got hired.
 
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