🏈 7/3 Roundtable - There Should Be A Playoff

[252BAMA]

:rofl: When link posted, there was no discussion. Did they all take the other side yesterday?

7/3 Roundtable - Why should there be a playoff? It's the Friday topic in the CFN Daily Roundtable Discussion.

http://cfn.scout.com/2/876769.html

 

[TerryP]

There are a few things I want to know from those who support the idea of a playoff.

Who do you suggest makes the selections for the teams that participate?

Since it will be a NCAA sanctioned playoff, that means it'll also be someone from the NCAA's participating schools in Div.1 / FBS play.

Who picks?

 

[252BAMA]

There are a few things I want to know from those who support the idea of a playoff.

Who do you suggest makes the selections for the teams that participate?

Since it will be a NCAA sanctioned playoff, that means it'll also be someone from the NCAA's participating schools in Div.1 / FBS play.

Who picks?

My answer to my own similar question yesterday was: The same ones that are determining the teams now; namely, the polls and computers.

 

[Crimson13Tide]

Who do you suggest makes the selections for the teams that participate?

Easy. The teams pick. Win your conference championship game, you get in. As far as the 4 at-large picks that should be rather easy as well. Take last year for example. Florida gets in as the SEC Champ. Alabama should also be included because of how highly they were ranked & because of their record. Oregon St. was the Pac-10 Champ if I'm not mistaken, so they're in. USC would have been included for the same reasons as 'Bama. Oklahoma got in because they were the Big XII Champs & Texas gets in for....the same reason as 'Bama & USC.

Essentially the 4 at-large teams will be the second best teams in major conferences as smaller conferences usually just have one team good enough to be in the playoff & they will be unless they slip up & lose their conference championship game.

In other words, you want a team from your conference to represent you in the playoff? Join the program & have a conference championship game.

That makes the regular season important because you want to get into you CCG....you want to win your CCG because it automatically gets you into their playoff at a higher seed....sooooo....there is ZERO reason to not have a playoff....none.

 

[TerryP]

My answer to my own similar question yesterday was: The same ones that are determining the teams now; namely, the polls and computers.

The problem with that theory is since it would be a sanctioned NCAA event, it would be a committee of people from the NCAA.

A committee, just like the one you see in basketball, football, baseball, etc.

We know how the votes are tabulated now. A committee with the NCAA would be people like Slive and other commissioners around the football divisions. Plus, a few little guys here and there.

Between the two, who has a better grasp of which teams deserve a shot and which teams do not?

 

[TerryP]

Easy. The teams pick. Win your conference championship game, you get in. As far as the 4 at-large picks that should be rather easy as well. Take last year for example. Florida gets in as the SEC Champ. Alabama should also be included because of how highly they were ranked & because of their record. Oregon St. was the Pac-10 Champ if I'm not mistaken, so they're in. USC would have been included for the same reasons as 'Bama. Oklahoma got in because they were the Big XII Champs & Texas gets in for....the same reason as 'Bama & USC.

Essentially the 4 at-large teams will be the second best teams in major conferences as smaller conferences usually just have one team good enough to be in the playoff & they will be unless they slip up & lose their conference championship game.

In other words, you want a team from your conference to represent you in the playoff? Join the program & have a conference championship game.

That makes the regular season important because you want to get into you CCG....you want to win your CCG because it automatically gets you into their playoff at a higher seed....sooooo....there is ZERO reason to not have a playoff....none.

Something missing here...care to guess what?

The same people complaining today, would be complaining if we used your scenario.

But, let's say we do use your system here we'd have (x-conference champs)

Florida - x
Bama
USC - x
Oregon
Penn State - x
Ohio State
Oklahoma - x
Texas
Virginia Tech -x
Florida State
Cincinnati - x
Pittsburgh...

Do I even need to go any further? Va Tech, Florida State...

Last year's BCS gave us a far better representation of the top teams in the nation.

Make it a plus one, this playoff discussion isn't being discussed on this forum — or any forum.

 

[252BAMA]

Still :rofl:. Still no discussion on the link, and at this late date doubt if there will be one.

 

[252BAMA]

Discussion is up. Finally! Better late than never I suppose. Pretty good discussion.

 

[shipley00]

Make it a plus one, this playoff discussion isn't being discussed on this forum — or any forum.

I'm a proponent of the plus one for one and only one reason. It's the easiest (logistically) to implement, where it is a 1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3. There are plenty of things critics can point to:

* Still relying on BCS rankings
* It's not a "true" playoff. Only the top 4
* You'll still have some one loss #5 or 6 teams say they should be considered.

Even with all that, statistically speaking, the odds off the "best team" being in #3 or #4 are considerable higher than once in a long while #5 team. (Yes, it's just an educated guess, but with some basis of watching #5 teams rarely blow out a "quality" opponent in their bowl game).

OK, so I'm a proponent for two reasons. That's not to say I wouldn't prefer an 8 team playoff, but I'd like to see a playoff in my lifetime. If you could get a plus one in, and it did well, in 5 years you could have serious discussions towards a more traditional playoff.

 

[psychojoe]

I don't have a problem with the NCAA selecting the teams. Sure they miss the boat once in awhile in basketball and baseball regarding at large type teams, but we all know that regardless of how many they pick there are only a few teams that are really contenders for teh big prize and those guys aren't going to be non selected. I'd like to see an 8 team playoff, as that would get all the contenders in, and maybe a few pretenders. Still, I like Shipley's idea of going to a "plus 1" set up, since it would be a start in the right direction.

This idea, unfortunately, will be a non starter because the BCS schools don't want to turn over control of all that $ to the NCAA.