| OT Wish Saban had stuck to his policy of “not publicly supporting any politician or political Party or any legislation unrelated to college football.”

Davestwin

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I think I know why he broke from his own policy but even so I think it was a mistake. In my opinion, the letter he signed onto paints with too broad a brush in some respects and contains opinion as much as fact in other areas. A lot of folks who support the University with their dollars and their passion disagree with his stance. Now, I believe he has every right to express his beliefs if that’s his wish … I simply wish he had remained apolitical.


 
I think I know why he broke from his own policy but even so I think it was a mistake. In my opinion, the letter he signed onto paints with too broad a brush in some respects and contains opinion as much as fact in other areas. A lot of folks who support the University with their dollars and their passion disagree with his stance. Now, I believe he has every right to express his beliefs if that’s his wish … I simply wish he had remained apolitical.


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The reasons for Saban doing this and actual impact of the legislation aside... I very, very seriously doubt he put his name on that without talking to Sen. Manchin beforehand and getting a green light of sorts. I say that based on their friendship and also based on him including this footnote...

“Coach Saban is not in favor of getting rid of the filibuster in the Senate,” the footnote reads. “He believes this will destroy the checks and balances we must have in this Democracy. The others signing this letter take no position on this aspect of Senate policies.”

 
It’s important legislation
It is important that they don't pass it. It has nothing to do with voters rights it has everything to do with taking away the voters ability to chose our leaders. It is the final nail in the coffin turning the US into a socialist/communist country. All polling shows that 80% of the country which includes people of every color support having to show ID to vote.

Saying black people are too incompetent to obtain an ID is racist in it's own right. Illegal aliens and convicts shouldn't be able to vote because they are not governed by the same rules and regulations and/or they have forfeited their rights. Increasing absentee ballots so dead people and make believe people can vote and stuff the balance boxes as much as they need to in order to change results is fraud and means that real voters wishes don't matter. Trying to end the electorial college and re-dividing the districts maps to favor one party is putting your finger on the scale to tip everything in the favor of NY and CA. No other state will really matter.

Keep in mind this "voting bill" was designed, dreamed and written by one party with zero collaboration from the other group to come up with fair rules in order to benefit one party, and keep one party in power forever.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely!

Love Saban but I hope he is smarter than this. I would gladly have him leave our program tomorrow if it would stop this devistating piece of crap plan from seeing the light of day. It will end the country.
 
It is important that they don't pass it. It has nothing to do with voters rights it has everything to do with taking away the voters ability to chose our leaders. It is the final nail in the coffin turning the US into a socialist/communist country. All polling shows that 80% of the country which includes people of every color support having to show ID to vote.

Saying black people are too incompetent to obtain an ID is racist in it's own right. Illegal aliens and convicts shouldn't be able to vote because they are not governed by the same rules and regulations and/or they have forfeited their rights. Increasing absentee ballots so dead people and make believe people can vote and stuff the balance boxes as much as they need to in order to change results is fraud and means that real voters wishes don't matter. Trying to end the electorial college and re-dividing the districts maps to favor one party is putting your finger on the scale to tip everything in the favor of NY and CA. No other state will really matter.

Keep in mind this "voting bill" was designed, dreamed and written by one party with zero collaboration from the other group to come up with fair rules in order to benefit one party, and keep one party in power forever.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely!

Love Saban but I hope he is smarter than this. I would gladly have him leave our program tomorrow if it would stop this devistating piece of crap plan from seeing the light of day. It will end the country.
Absentee ballots don’t lead to widespread voter fraud, that hasn’t happened.

Collaboration with the other party on anything is funny. The right wingers in DC have zero interest in collaborating on anything. If Trump doesn’t like something they won’t do it, so let’s eliminate the “collaborating with the other party” thing b/c it doesn’t matter what it is the right won’t go with it even if it was for something they generally would agree with.
 
Absentee ballots don’t lead to widespread voter fraud, that hasn’t happened.

Collaboration with the other party on anything is funny. The right wingers in DC have zero interest in collaborating on anything. If Trump doesn’t like something they won’t do it, so let’s eliminate the “collaborating with the other party” thing b/c it doesn’t matter what it is the right won’t go with it even if it was for something they generally would agree with.
Trump isnt in office and has no impact on this. The Pres and VP that are in office taken us from soaring economically, energy independent, safe and secure, with the respect of other nations and leaders to double the gas prices, record high inflation, soaring unemployment, soaring violent crime, soaring homelessness, military morale at an all time low and the rest of the world is laughing at us.

Voter Fraud happened in GA, NC, AZ, MN, MI and PA last year. They just kept trucking them in until they got the numbers they needed, or closed the counting locations kicked out the inspectors and pulled out boxes of mystery ballots from under tables.. unbelievably 100% for one candidate.... yep never happens..lol

I also noticed that you didn't address the rest of my take. Asking to show ID isn't racist.. saying black people are to incompetent to get Id's is racist.
 
Trump isnt in office and has no impact on this. The Pres and VP that are in office taken us from soaring economically, energy independent, safe and secure, with the respect of other nations and leaders to double the gas prices, record high inflation, soaring unemployment, soaring violent crime, soaring homelessness, military morale at an all time low and the rest of the world is laughing at us.

Voter Fraud happened in GA, NC, AZ, MN, MI and PA last year. They just kept trucking them in until they got the numbers they needed, or closed the counting locations kicked out the inspectors and pulled out boxes of mystery ballots from under tables.. unbelievably 100% for one candidate.... yep never happens..lol

I also noticed that you didn't address the rest of my take. Asking to show ID isn't racist.. saying black people are to incompetent to get Id's is racist.
Trump does have impact on this because the repubs in DC are still being led by him.

Our economy is still strong (the economic numbers by every measure show that), gas prices haven’t doubled (again numbers show that), and unemployment is at 3.9% which is the lowest is has been since 2019.

There was not widespread voter fraud, even Trump appointed judges said there wasn’t. Dems would fraud the election just to get Trump out, but they wouldn’t get some of the other morons on the right out ever?

I never said it was racist. But, every American deserves to be able to vote and there are a lot of underprivileged people that can’t because they can’t afford an ID, you can’t pay for anything with no money.
 
Trump does have impact on this because the repubs in DC are still being led by him.

Our economy is still strong (the economic numbers by every measure show that), gas prices haven’t doubled (again numbers show that), and unemployment is at 3.9% which is the lowest is has been since 2019.

There was not widespread voter fraud, even Trump appointed judges said there wasn’t. Dems would fraud the election just to get Trump out, but they wouldn’t get some of the other morons on the right out ever?

I never said it was racist. But, every American deserves to be able to vote and there are a lot of underprivileged people that can’t because they can’t afford an ID, you can’t pay for anything with no money.
This is my last reply because continually agrueing with someone who lies to themselves is pointless and this isn't a political forum,

Trump does have impact on this because the repubs in DC are still being led by him. -- This is incorrect he is still popular with the people but republicans don't answer to him.. that is laughable

Our economy is still strong (the economic numbers by every measure show that), gas prices haven’t doubled (again numbers show that), and unemployment is at 3.9% which is the lowest is has been since 2019. - This is an outright lie..Our economy is in the tank and inflation is exploding., business are struggling, can't get materials delivered. Store shelves are empty because people can't get materials to manufacture products and gas prices are so high that it's having a major impact on shipping costs. YOu can fudge numbers everyone can see there is less money in their bank, everything costs more and their paycheck isn't growing .. if they still have one. Gas price for regular unleaded was at 1.40 a gallon and it is currently at over $3 right now which is down some from a few months ago.. this is fact.

There was not widespread voter fraud, even Trump appointed judges said there wasn’t. Dems would fraud the election just to get Trump out, but they wouldn’t get some of the other morons on the right out ever? Every logical person knows that last electrion was full of fraud. Saying it wasn't just makes anyone look much less credible

I never said it was racist. But, every American deserves to be able to vote and there are a lot of underprivileged people that can’t because they can’t afford an ID, you can’t pay for anything with no money. Bullshit in most states if you are in the system ID is free and if not I and most people support that state ID's should be free. But you need ID to do everything, cash a welfare or disability check, start a bank account, get on a plane.. so the claim that black people can't get an ID is absurd and insulting.
 
This is my last reply because continually agrueing with someone who lies to themselves is pointless and this isn't a political forum,

Trump does have impact on this because the repubs in DC are still being led by him. -- This is incorrect he is still popular with the people but republicans don't answer to him.. that is laughable

Our economy is still strong (the economic numbers by every measure show that), gas prices haven’t doubled (again numbers show that), and unemployment is at 3.9% which is the lowest is has been since 2019. - This is an outright lie..Our economy is in the tank and inflation is exploding., business are struggling, can't get materials delivered. Store shelves are empty because people can't get materials to manufacture products and gas prices are so high that it's having a major impact on shipping costs. YOu can fudge numbers everyone can see there is less money in their bank, everything costs more and their paycheck isn't growing .. if they still have one. Gas price for regular unleaded was at 1.40 a gallon and it is currently at over $3 right now which is down some from a few months ago.. this is fact.

There was not widespread voter fraud, even Trump appointed judges said there wasn’t. Dems would fraud the election just to get Trump out, but they wouldn’t get some of the other morons on the right out ever? Every logical person knows that last electrion was full of fraud. Saying it wasn't just makes anyone look much less credible

I never said it was racist. But, every American deserves to be able to vote and there are a lot of underprivileged people that can’t because they can’t afford an ID, you can’t pay for anything with no money. Bullshit in most states if you are in the system ID is free and if not I and most people support that state ID's should be free. But you need ID to do everything, cash a welfare or disability check, start a bank account, get on a plane.. so the claim that black people can't get an ID is absurd and insulting.
And I’ll bet you think Jan 6 was a Boy Scout trip.

We’ll agree to disagree. Roll Tide
 
Absentee ballots don’t lead to widespread voter fraud, that hasn’t happened.

Collaboration with the other party on anything is funny. The right wingers in DC have zero interest in collaborating on anything. If Trump doesn’t like something they won’t do it, so let’s eliminate the “collaborating with the other party” thing b/c it doesn’t matter what it is the right won’t go with it even if it was for something they generally would agree with.

I don't have any interest in collaborating with individuals who espouse the right of a man to chop off his dick and claim he is a woman. I don't have any interest in collaborating with a bunch of block heads who have no problem turning this nation into gigantic Brazilian favela. These people fuck the average American every day while they live in their gated communities outside Silicon Valley or Washington DC. They circle jerk each other and pat themselves on the back for being such "kind hearted liberals".
 
And I’ll bet you think Jan 6 was a Boy Scout trip.

We’ll agree to disagree. Roll Tide
One unarmed woman died during Jan 6th. FBI operatives were inciting and encouraging people to go in the capital in the first place.

There was much more violence and destruction in Portland, chicago, NY, MN, Atlanta, B,ham and any other city that BLM our antifa has been at.
 
I don't have any interest in collaborating with individuals who espouse the right of a man to chop off his dick and claim he is a woman. I don't have any interest in collaborating with a bunch of block heads who have no problem turning this nation into gigantic Brazilian favela. These people fuck the average American every day while they live in their gated communities outside Silicon Valley or Washington DC. They circle jerk each other and pat themselves on the back for being such "kind hearted liberals".
And yet you agree with the most selfish individual in the world…..weird
 
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