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c5vetman

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new offense have to look to the sidelines before every play? I saw this same question on another board, but no one over there could answer it, but I know there are more knowledgeable guys over here.

BTW, I was listening to the Buck and Kincaid show here in Atlanta last night, and they were making fun of Tony Franklin's offense, and how he was selling it to high schools. They were saying how you could probably get a really good discount on it now! :)
 
Getting the play call.

The come to the line of scrimmage, see the defensive set, look to the sidelines for the call, then go into their snap count.

UT did the same thing last year...there are a number of teams that use this approach as well.
 
TerryP said:
Getting the play call.

The come to the line of scrimmage, see the defensive set, look to the sidelines for the call, then go into their snap count.

UT did the same thing last year...there are a number of teams that use this approach as well.

Wow do they some piss poor play callers then. I believe if I come to the line and the box in the box is looking at the defense I think I could call something that would work.
 
I honestly hate the whole looking at the sideline... Can somebody inform me as to why this isn't some form of a false start? It always kind of makes me jump in my chair when all of them suddenly stand up straight and look to the sideline.
 
BamaCore said:
I honestly hate the whole looking at the sideline... Can somebody inform me as to why this isn't some form of a false start? It always kind of makes me jump in my chair when all of them suddenly stand up straight and look to the sideline.

It's not a penalty because they aren't set yet.
 
Rolling Tide said:
TerryP said:
Getting the play call.

The come to the line of scrimmage, see the defensive set, look to the sidelines for the call, then go into their snap count.

UT did the same thing last year...there are a number of teams that use this approach as well.

Wow do they some piss poor play callers then. I believe if I come to the line and the box in the box is looking at the defense I think I could call something that would work.

That's one of the reasons you see so many Auburn fans disgusted with their offense right now. The spread can work if you put the right players in the right positions to make plays, as long as those plays are called.

Right now, not only do they have their struggles with execution, they have their struggles with the game plan as well.
 
I knew they were looking to get the play call, but why does it have to be the whole team? Why can't the qb look over, get the call, and make the call at the LOS? It just makes them look incompetent (and the way they're playing only makes it worse).

It's very annoying, and I feel like it's only destined for failure, at least the way they're doing it. Fla doesn't do that, nor do any of the other successful spread offenses that I've seen. It wastes time and leads to confusion, it's like calling an audible on every single play.

But...I hope they continue to do it exactly like they are now!
 
c5vetman said:
I knew they were looking to get the play call, but why does it have to be the whole team? Why can't the qb look over, get the call, and make the call at the LOS? It just makes them look incompetent (and the way they're playing only makes it worse).

It's very annoying, and I feel like it's only destined for failure, at least the way they're doing it. Fla doesn't do that, nor do any of the other successful spread offenses that I've seen. It wastes time and leads to confusion, it's like calling an audible on every single play.

But...I hope they continue to do it exactly like they are now!
The linemen are receiving not only the play call but the blocking scheme as well. Being communicated directly from the sideline means the QB will not have to tell them both the play and scheme. In many offenses an OLman, usually the Center, will make the scheme call on his own. Auburn, like many teams, is removing this variable from a player-call to a coach-call.

You are right in that it is in essence an audible on every play. In fact, it really is a 'check with me' style system.

On this theme, I really wish football would get away from this level of coach control over everything. I wish the rule was that coaches could not send in plays to players in any form (signals or by sending in a play with a substitute) - both offense and defense. Make the coaches TEACH the game during the week and allow the players to PLAY the game they were taught in practice or between series. But with multi-million dollar contracts on the line, I can see where a coach would not be comfortable yielding that level of control on gameday.

This is the old QB in me coming out. I called so many audibles that after two games the coaches told me that I might as well call the plays myself. And we entered the State Championship undefeated so something worked out well there. On a humorous note, I one time called three successive FB draws on the idea that we had not run that play in over a month and one time would be unexpected, two times never imagined, and three times impossible. Each successive play gained a little more yardage. On the fourth play I call a fake FB draw and a screen to the HB. I think 15 defensive players hit the FB (some probably came off the sideline to join in) and the HB could have walked in literally to score. Our coach was rolling in laughter when I hit the sideline.
 
c5vetman said:
I knew they were looking to get the play call, but why does it have to be the whole team? Why can't the qb look over, get the call, and make the call at the LOS? It just makes them look incompetent (and the way they're playing only makes it worse).

It's very annoying, and I feel like it's only destined for failure, at least the way they're doing it. Fla doesn't do that, nor do any of the other successful spread offenses that I've seen. It wastes time and leads to confusion, it's like calling an audible on every single play.

But...I hope they continue to do it exactly like they are now!

yeah it's looking great! keep it up, barners!
 
alagator said:
c5vetman said:
I knew they were looking to get the play call, but why does it have to be the whole team? Why can't the qb look over, get the call, and make the call at the LOS? It just makes them look incompetent (and the way they're playing only makes it worse).

It's very annoying, and I feel like it's only destined for failure, at least the way they're doing it. Fla doesn't do that, nor do any of the other successful spread offenses that I've seen. It wastes time and leads to confusion, it's like calling an audible on every single play.

But...I hope they continue to do it exactly like they are now!
The linemen are receiving not only the play call but the blocking scheme as well. Being communicated directly from the sideline means the QB will not have to tell them both the play and scheme. In many offenses an OLman, usually the Center, will make the scheme call on his own. Auburn, like many teams, is removing this variable from a player-call to a coach-call.

You are right in that it is in essence an audible on every play. In fact, it really is a 'check with me' style system.

On this theme, I really wish football would get away from this level of coach control over everything. I wish the rule was that coaches could not send in plays to players in any form (signals or by sending in a play with a substitute) - both offense and defense. Make the coaches TEACH the game during the week and allow the players to PLAY the game they were taught in practice or between series. But with multi-million dollar contracts on the line, I can see where a coach would not be comfortable yielding that level of control on gameday.

This is the old QB in me coming out. I called so many audibles that after two games the coaches told me that I might as well call the plays myself. And we entered the State Championship undefeated so something worked out well there. On a humorous note, I one time called three successive FB draws on the idea that we had not run that play in over a month and one time would be unexpected, two times never imagined, and three times impossible. Each successive play gained a little more yardage. On the fourth play I call a fake FB draw and a screen to the HB. I think 15 defensive players hit the FB (some probably came off the sideline to join in) and the HB could have walked in literally to score. Our coach was rolling in laughter when I hit the sideline.

Great story!!!
 
the_rolltide said:
rammajamma said:
Why don't they have the helmets with the radios like the NFL in college?

unfair advantage.
Some schools couldn't afford em!!

I don't watch the NFL because Bama is the only pro team I have time for. But tell me this, how do they keep people from picking up their conversations on a scanner like NASCAR?
 
alagator said:
The linemen are receiving not only the play call but the blocking scheme as well. Being communicated directly from the sideline means the QB will not have to tell them both the play and scheme. In many offenses an OLman, usually the Center, will make the scheme call on his own. Auburn, like many teams, is removing this variable from a player-call to a coach-call.

You are right in that it is in essence an audible on every play. In fact, it really is a 'check with me' style system.

On this theme, I really wish football would get away from this level of coach control over everything. I wish the rule was that coaches could not send in plays to players in any form (signals or by sending in a play with a substitute) - both offense and defense. Make the coaches TEACH the game during the week and allow the players to PLAY the game they were taught in practice or between series. But with multi-million dollar contracts on the line, I can see where a coach would not be comfortable yielding that level of control on gameday.

This is the old QB in me coming out. I called so many audibles that after two games the coaches told me that I might as well call the plays myself. And we entered the State Championship undefeated so something worked out well there. On a humorous note, I one time called three successive FB draws on the idea that we had not run that play in over a month and one time would be unexpected, two times never imagined, and three times impossible. Each successive play gained a little more yardage. On the fourth play I call a fake FB draw and a screen to the HB. I think 15 defensive players hit the FB (some probably came off the sideline to join in) and the HB could have walked in literally to score. Our coach was rolling in laughter when I hit the sideline.

Good story alagator.

As for AU looking to the SL for the play call, I always get an image of a group of meerkats in my head everytime I watch them look over to the side line.

http__friends.kalahari-meerkats.com_-_image-20070916-172416.jpg
 
A lot of high school offenses do the same thing.

...those high schools run the Tony Franklin system, as well. 90% of high schools, I would estimate, run it.
 
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