| FTBL The Jim Harbaugh era at Michigan has been all hype and no substance.

PurlJam said:
Harbaugh is done...I dont think if they beat tOSU he can save his job...they suck really bad.
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Unless he loses like 5-6 games including to OSU for the next couple of seasons his job is fine. He's been giving them 10 win seasons fairly consistently and major bowl appearances (albeit mostly losses but they historically lose more bowls than they win-even their greatest coach had a losing bowl record)and that's a sight better than what happened during the Rich Rod and Hoke eras. In fact, that's pretty much par for the course for Michigan teams in the modern era In the last 40 years their ceiling is usually being a 10 win program that made noise on a National Championship level once. All he has to do is keep that going and he'll be fine. Beating OSU once in a blue moon is a great bonus but they'll settle for being competitive every year if it comes to it. Besides, who could they hire right now that could do better, realistically?


The Harbaugh era at Michigan is what Michigan is. Their problem was the fanbase let their expectations get out of control when they hired him, thinking he'd be the next Saban or Meyer there. They seemed to forget that they are Michigan and football dynasties are really really hard to come by, even for the bluest blood.
 
Trob said:
Unless he loses like 5-6 games including to OSU for the next couple of seasons his job is fine. He's been giving them 10 win seasons fairly consistently and major bowl appearances (albeit mostly losses but they historically lose more bowls than they win-even their greatest coach had a losing bowl record)and that's a sight better than what happened during the Rich Rod and Hoke eras. In fact, that's pretty much par for the course for Michigan teams in the modern era In the last 40 years their ceiling is usually being a 10 win program that made noise on a National Championship level once. All he has to do is keep that going and he'll be fine. Beating OSU once in a blue moon is a great bonus but they'll settle for being competitive every year if it comes to it. Besides, who could they hire right now that could do better, realistically?


The Harbaugh era at Michigan is what Michigan is. Their problem was the fanbase let their expectations get out of control when they hired him, thinking he'd be the next Saban or Meyer there. They seemed to forget that they are Michigan and football dynasties are really really hard to come by, even for the bluest blood.
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The way they look, losing 5 or 6 games would be a success.
 
planomateo said:
Michigan fans finally realizing what everyone's said for years is true.
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I still don't think people have openly admitted, or even realized, what was happening at Stanford with Harbaugh. I know I've mentioned it when talking about Chip Kelly and Oregon and I feel the same fits for his time with the Cardinal.

Harbaugh was at Stanford from 2007-2010.
Kelly was at Oregon starting in 2007 and was there through 2012.
USC was sanctions in the middle of the summer in 2010 after several years of play with the NCAA's cloud over the program.

Here's an excerpt from an article discussing the earlier statistics in this thread.

It’s also shocking to see Harbaugh’s record when Michigan is an underdog. During his time with Stanford, Harbaugh led the Cardinal to several big-time upsets.
But whatever worked at Stanford hasn’t translated to success at Michigan.
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Because the "bell cow" of the conference wasn't at full strength?
 
sports.yahoo.com

Wisconsin's utter embarrassment of Michigan exposes Jim Harbaugh

For Jim Harbaugh at Michigan, the pattern of big-game failures has evolved into an expectation. It's fair to question whether he'll ever lift the Wolverines back to national relevance.
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Harbaugh’s most recent glaring negligence came with hiring the inexperienced Josh Gattis from Alabama in the offseason to both run the offense and overhaul the program’s pro-style DNA. The early results are a distinct failure, as Michigan managed just 14 points in regulation against Army and 14 against Wisconsin. By the time the Wolverines scored against Wisconsin, they trailed 35-0.​
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Gattis’ early struggles should be pinned squarely on Harbaugh. The offseason coronation of Gattis as a great hire included these delicious details in a story in The Athletic – “There was no interview. No face-to-face meeting. No get-up-on-the-board-and-show-me-how-you-run-this session. Not even a tell-me-about-your-offensive-philosophy discussion.”​
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Harbaugh basically put the future of the program on a 20-minute phone conversation, which is a bit like getting engaged after the first drink on a first date. And he did it knowing that Nick Saban had an opportunity to promote Gattis to the same job and declined. That’s impulsive and reckless even by Harbaugh’s standards, and was begging for more skepticism from an athletic director and administration who’d already seen a pattern of bad hires and dysfunctional offenses.​
 

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