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after this post I'll leave you guys alone.  My point was that saban has not shown he is a disciplinarian while he has been at alabama. although there are so many post saying how he is going to discipline the players that have gotten in trouble.

I think alabama has a great tradition and will one day (again) be a top team in the nation, there is so much pressure on a coach to come in and win immediatly it henders his ability to coach and discipline players.

I appreciate you guys for allowing me to post and not bashing me for being a barner.