| FTBL NCAA approves rule changes for the '09 season.

[TerryP]

Recommendations dealing with pace-of-play issues were also approved by PROP. A 40/25-second play clock system will be used in 2008 in an effort to standardize the pace of play. Unless the game is stopped for administrative reasons (for example, change of possession, injury, etc.), the offensive team will have 40 seconds to snap the ball after it is declared dead.

Additionally, there will be a change in the way the game is timed when a runner goes out of bounds. The game clock will initially stop, as is the case currently. However, except in the last two minutes of each half, the game clock will now start on a signal from the referee, rather than on the snap.

Other changes that will go in effect next season include:

In the rules relating to instant replay, plays where a fumble leads to an immediate recovery may be reviewed.

In replay rules, a coach that challenges a play and is successful will retain the right to challenge one more time for a maximum of two.

When a kickoff goes out of bounds, the receiving team may accept the ball at the 40-yard line instead of the 35.

The incidental five-yard face mask foul was removed. All face mask fouls (pulling, twisting or turning) will be a 15-yard penalty.

A yardage penalty for sideline control will be instituted.

From NCAA.org

 

[shipley00]

In the rules relating to instant replay, plays where a fumble leads to an immediate recovery may be reviewed.

Does this mean the SEC can't hide behind the "we ruled them down (even though we didn't blow a whiste), so we won't review for a fumble"?

Please, please, please....

 

[Guest]

I don't like the rules regarding timing. This leads to fewer plays, when most of us want more football. College rules don't have to mirror NFL rules.

 

[Guest]

Recommendations dealing with pace-of-play issues were also approved by PROP. A 40/25-second play clock system will be used in 2008 in an effort to standardize the pace of play. Unless the game is stopped for administrative reasons (for example, change of possession, injury, etc.), the offensive team will have 40 seconds to snap the ball after it is declared dead.

Additionally, there will be a change in the way the game is timed when a runner goes out of bounds. The game clock will initially stop, as is the case currently. However, except in the last two minutes of each half, the game clock will now start on a signal from the referee, rather than on the snap.

Other changes that will go in effect next season include:

In the rules relating to instant replay, plays where a fumble leads to an immediate recovery may be reviewed.

In replay rules, a coach that challenges a play and is successful will retain the right to challenge one more time for a maximum of two.

When a kickoff goes out of bounds, the receiving team may accept the ball at the 40-yard line instead of the 35.

The incidental five-yard face mask foul was removed. All face mask fouls (pulling, twisting or turning) will be a 15-yard penalty.

A yardage penalty for sideline control will be instituted.

From NCAA.org

They explained the 40 second application. Where does the 25 second come in?

Defining an immediate recovery seems like just another can of worms being opened. Short of literately handing the ball off, all recoveries are delayed some degree.

Face mask calls have no joined the realm of holding calls -- huge on referee opinion -- but I like it in general. If one stays away from the facemask, you're alright.

WRT the "stabilizing of the pace of the game" I like it. I had the chance to spend a great deal of time with some Europeans overseas recently and universally the biggest issue that they saw with football was the "stop-n-go" nature of the game. (I know, we all don't care what they think.) But there was a point there in that pace, and the controlling of it, has been a good thing to basketball. Often the pace, and outcome are dominated by the better team. In the end, I think it will be good.

 

[Swamptick]

However, except in the last two minutes of each half, the game clock will now start on a signal from the referee, rather than on the snap.

I don't like this at all. Mark my words this will hurt schools like Alabama that seem to never get the good calls.

The incidental five-yard face mask foul was removed. All face mask fouls (pulling, twisting or turning) will be a 15-yard penalty.

I call BS on that one too. If you happen to land a finger inside part of a face mask but don't hold on it should not be a 15 yard penalty. It is stuff like this that gives the refs TOO much subjectivity and not enough objectivity. Something I think will hurt non-darling schools. Notre Dame, USC, Ohio State, Michigan and Texas will all do well with these changes but not us poor rednecks down here. :roll:

 

[TerryP]

However, except in the last two minutes of each half, the game clock will now start on a signal from the referee, rather than on the snap.

I don't like this at all. Mark my words this will hurt schools like Alabama that seem to never get the good calls.

The incidental five-yard face mask foul was removed. All face mask fouls (pulling, twisting or turning) will be a 15-yard penalty.

I call BS on that one too. If you happen to land a finger inside part of a face mask but don't hold on it should not be a 15 yard penalty. It is stuff like this that gives the refs TOO much subjectivity and not enough objectivity. Something I think will hurt non-darling schools. Notre Dame, USC, Ohio State, Michigan and Texas will all do well with these changes but not us poor rednecks down here. :roll:

I'm going to pull out a few DVD's this weekend and time the plays to see if it'll make a difference. I do wonder if that rule will stand up for more than one season.

As to the face mask comment, if I understand it correctly, if you get a finger in the face mask and it doesn't lead to the ball carrier being tackled it's not going to be called. As much as Penn Wagers' crews screw calls up, I do have a respect for his knowledge of the rule book. I run into him quite often and plan to call him about this rule this afternoon if I don't see him at lunch. I'm fairly sure I understand this new rule though.

 

[Guest]

However, except in the last two minutes of each half, the game clock will now start on a signal from the referee, rather than on the snap.

I don't like this at all. Mark my words this will hurt schools like Alabama that seem to never get the good calls.

The incidental five-yard face mask foul was removed. All face mask fouls (pulling, twisting or turning) will be a 15-yard penalty.

I call BS on that one too. If you happen to land a finger inside part of a face mask but don't hold on it should not be a 15 yard penalty. It is stuff like this that gives the refs TOO much subjectivity and not enough objectivity. Something I think will hurt non-darling schools. Notre Dame, USC, Ohio State, Michigan and Texas will all do well with these changes but not us poor rednecks down here. :roll:

Thats a barner mentality (the refs always screw us) :roll: We get our fair share of good calls too

 

[bamafan4ever]

I don't like the rules regarding timing. This leads to fewer plays, when most of us want more football. College rules don't have to mirror NFL rules.

I think the new rule would allow for more plays to be run. The sideline better be able to get the next play in faster than in the past. Oh, nevermind. That was a probelm with Shula's sideline.

 

[imported_porkchop]

I don't like the rules regarding timing. This leads to fewer plays, when most of us want more football. College rules don't have to mirror NFL rules.

Speaking of mirroring NFL rules, I was surprised to see that they changed the 5-yard acemask rule myself. I know that the NFL was going to adopt that, but I didn't think the NCAA would.

 

[bamafan4ever]

I don't like the rules regarding timing. This leads to fewer plays, when most of us want more football. College rules don't have to mirror NFL rules.

Speaking of mirroring NFL rules, I was surprised to see that they changed the 5-yard acemask rule myself. I know that the NFL was going to adopt that, but I didn't think the NCAA would.

Damn! I missed that about the "acemask"! :evil: I did see that about the facemask though! :lol:

 

[Birmingham]

"the offensive team will have 40 seconds to snap the ball after it is declared dead. "

I think this will be very good for Georgia Tech this year under Paul Johnson.

 

[ghice]

"the offensive team will have 40 seconds to snap the ball after it is declared dead. "

I think this will be very good for Georgia Tech this year under Paul Johnson.

Yeah it will defiantly give more advantage to a team that can run the ball on a consistent basis