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According to reports from the George County Sheriff's department, early Monday morning Johnson had been pulled over for a routine traffic violation. When the deputy walked back to his car to run the Johnson's registration he heard a gun-shot.
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:x Anyone elses BS detector going crazy right now.
Wonder were Deputy Dog stashed his hidaway at. :evil:
 
AlabamaAubKiller said:
According to reports from the George County Sheriff's department, early Monday morning Johnson had been pulled over for a routine traffic violation. When the deputy walked back to his car to run the Johnson's registration he heard a gun-shot.
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:x Anyone elses BS detector going crazy right now.
Wonder were Deputy Dog stashed his hidaway at. :evil:
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Something doesnt add up there at all. Why would you kill yourself because you were pulled over.
 
There are all kinds of speculation going on around here about this. He really could have been something special. I remember seeing him as a freshmen, he was a phenom for George County. He had so much potential, this is just such a tragedy. I cant help but feel for his family, coaches, and teammates.
 
I just wanted to ask, but don't cops carry shotguns in there cars? Not that it means the cop did anything at all. I was just wondering this because as some of you stated. I also think shooting yourself with a shotgun in the car would be really hard.
 
Optimus said:
I just wanted to ask, but don't cops carry shotguns in there cars? Not that it means the cop did anything at all. I was just wondering this because as some of you stated. I also think shooting yourself with a shotgun in the car would be really hard.
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How the cop didn't notice a shotgun in the car, and how he supposedly pulled it out of hiding and some how shot himself by the time the officer made it back to the car ( otherwise he would have have to have seen him struggling and would have for his own saftey made the kid get out of the car wher ehe could be seen) it could just be me but I agree something doesn't sound right here
 
Optimus said:
I just wanted to ask, but don't cops carry shotguns in there cars? Not that it means the cop did anything at all. I was just wondering this because as some of you stated. I also think shooting yourself with a shotgun in the car would be really hard.
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Yes Optimus they do. Almost all patrol units in Alabama carry a shotgun. most mounted in a locking bracket to the front floor board vertically, between the driver and passenger seats. Or mounted in the trunk. Some even carry assault riffles. i would imagine it's the same way in Ms. I know this because i have family in Law inforcement. And in my 20's i moonlighted for a bail bondsman here in Montgomery. Working the front desk and helping do skip traces.
So i'm very familiar with the mentality of law enforcement personnel. An i know what some of them are capable of, their not all bad, but their not all good either. Some of the stuff i've seen and heard about would make the hair on the back of your neck stand up.

If this kid A: Had a shot gun....i doubt he would have pointed it at him self, intentionally or other wise. a 17 year old black male with a bright football career ahead, loved by everyone that knew him, multiple scholarship opportunities ahead, sorry i may be a turkey but this crap just don't freakn jive with me guys.

It would help if i knew what the car was he was in. that'd reveal if there was even room to maneuver a shot gun around in such a way as to have it discharge killing the driver.
Any press photo of the scene?
 
Well in all honesty we don't know what was going on behind the scene. He could have had mental issues that no one knew about. I mean when people commit suicide nobody knows why. And about the shotgun, it may have been a sawed-off shotgun which doesnt make it that big. Who knows but I will pray for his family.
 
Here is my take on things and to offer some info that yall may not know. He was an avid hunter and had been hunting that morning just prior to being stopped. It was common for him to hunt before going to school. I read that he was in Z71 Truck...not sure on cab size...and that he was a pretty popular kid..that alot of people knew. Not sure about any personal issues / stressors in his life to lead to suicide. I think that at first the impression was that it was suicide..but IMO from what i have read, it will likely be an accidental / self inflicted shot. If its not that or suicide....we are left with a deputy or someone else shooting a kid with the kids gun for apparently no reason whatsoever. IMO,if I wanted to kill someone, id come up with a better story than what was released...something like, "he stepped out and pointed the gun at me and i shot him" or something like that...yall get my drift with that. The location of the shot has not been released from what i have read. My gut tells me its going to end up being ruled an accidental discharge. Hard for me to accept suicide.
 
Shortly after writing my previous post I spoke to someone from that area. I was informed that allegedly not long before the traffic stop, he was either trying to break into / or broke into his ex-girlfriends house, and that the girl / parents called 911. Again just to point out...im not one for rumors..dont care for them much myself, but it seems to be the local talk and accurate. We never know what people are capable of or what they are thinking...anyways, just something to think about. Very sad either way, regardless of what happened. I just hope at some point the family can get closure.
 
I normally just read the post and never reply, but I live about 15 minutes from the town he was killed in. From what I have heard from friends that live there is that he ran a red light and stop sign is why he was pulled over. His parents were not even the ones that came and ID his body his football coach was. There is an investigation into the killing but the local police are not the ones heading it up.
 
Update: Death was not suicide
The NAACP has determined through an independent investigation that George County High School football star Billey Joe John son Jr. did not commit suicide last week during a traffic stop in Lucedale, the vice president of the organization's Mississippi chapter said Sunday.

Curley Clark said the state chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People plans to have a second, independent autopsy performed on Johnson's body, with results expected to be announced later this week.

"The NAACP, along with the family, have determined that Billey Joe Johnson did not commit suicide," Clark said.

The NAACP's conclusion does not rule out the possibility that Johnson accidentally shot himself, Clark said.

"At this point, nothing is concrete until the results of the autopsies have been made known," Clark said.

The organization based its findings on interviews with people who knew Johnson and on physical evidence, Clark said, although Clark declined to detail the physical evidence, citing legal concerns. Clark said nothing supports the notion that the junior running back was in the state of mind to kill himself.

The NAACP met with the family and other community members Saturday, Clark said.

He said the family is scheduled to meet with District Attorney Tony Lawrence today at his office in Pascagoula.

Because a George County deputy was at the scene when Johnson was shot, Sheriff Garry Welford turned the investigation over to Lawrence, who said Friday in his only comment about the investigation that he would not comment again until after meeting with the family. The Mississippi Bureau of Investigations is assisting in the investigation.

Questions and rumors have been circulating since the 17-year-old's death from a single gunshot blast Dec. 8 just moments after a George County sheriff's deputy stopped him about 6:30 a.m. on Mississippi 26 for a traffic violation.

Welford said last week that the deputy, whose identity has not been made public, told him that while he went to his patrol vehicle to do a license check, he heard a gunshot and found the teenager dead outside of his truck. A shotgun was on the body.

The Associated Press quoted Welford last week as saying he was not sure if Johnson's death was the result of suicide or simply an accident.

Johnson's coach, Al Jones, said he was told that the teenager had shot himself.

Johnson, who lived in the rural area of Benndale, was considered a gifted running back and rushed for more than 4,000 yards in his three years on the varsity team.

According to Scout, a national football recruiting news source, Johnson already had scholarship offers from major universities including Alabama, Auburn, LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State and Oregon.

Visitation with the Johnsons will be held from 6 to 9 p.m. Dec. 19 at the Cowan Funeral Home Chapel in Lucedale on Glen Oak Drive near McDonald's Restaurant. Funeral services will be at 11 a.m. Dec. 20 at the George County Middle School Gym in Lucedale on Church Street.
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pcarroll77 said:
I normally just read the post and never reply, but I live about 15 minutes from the town he was killed in. From what I have heard from friends that live there is that he ran a red light and stop sign is why he was pulled over. His parents were not even the ones that came and ID his body his football coach was. There is an investigation into the killing but the local police are not the ones heading it up.
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weezyfbaby00 said:
Update: Death was not suicideLucedale on Church Street.
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So his parents did ID the body, yet are now involed? Man I would like to know what really happend. It's just a sad story.
 

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