The UM fans were OK when we played them in JerryWorld a few years ago. Of course, they were down after the game but they were not assholes about the results, a few congratulated us, the others were just silent. Pre game they were fine, not much smack, a good bit of respect. MSU may just be the AU of Michigan. Always being the little brother makes one sulky and petulant. Even when things swing in their favor for a few years, they can't get it out of their heads that they are the second class citizens within their own state. tOSU is definitely a combo of LSU and UGA, the rowdiness of LSU fans minus good food and the whining of UGA fans.