BamaJay73
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Spread the word: Defenses evolving to take away option
AU may have jumped on the spread band wagon a little too late. :twisted:
AU may have jumped on the spread band wagon a little too late. :twisted:
| FTBL Good article on the spread
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RollTide80
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I dunno, I doubt it. Any offense can be adapted to. The "spread" is just a formation. It's NOT an offense. Missouri is also a passing team averaging almost 330 yards a game in the air where the barners are going to try and still run the ball. Their coordinator kept Troy pretty balanced in the run/pass game and kept them in the game against pretty much every SEC team they played. They are two completely different offenses. Mizzu focuses on passing and Auburn focuses on game tempo. We aren’t out of the woods yet.
musso
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RollTide80 said:
good point.
the last two quotes in this article i find interesting and relevant to the previous behemoth thread "Saban's 3-4 against the spread."
this echoes the point that i made in that thread that a running QB is a critical ingredient to making a spread offense difficult to defend. i also said that because running QBs cannot thrive in the NFL, comparing the utility of 3-4 defenses in the NFL to the NCAA is tricky.
yet another coach ...
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I don't discredit your view, nor the views of coaches around the country. IMO, their are multiple ways to stop the spread, not one right answer. I think most people on this board have faith in Saban's defensive philosophy, myself included, so there is no winner in this argument (see the dead horse being beaten).
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musso said:
I'd like to introduce your views to my nervousness. :wink: I don't know enough to argue one way or the other, but the talk of the AU spread (mainly around my house) makes me sick.
musso said:
To be honest, I ran across that video the other day and have been looking to post it somewhere.
I still don't share the concern you do about the defense. If Saban was going to use 3-4 every play no matter what formation the offense was showing up in, I would seriously worry. I doubt very seriously we'll even see a 3-4 for a single play against Auburn. I'm guessing 3-3-5 will be our package a ton this year, and to be honest, the 3-3-5 defense probably gets our top 11 defensive players on the field. The only part of the nickel package that is heavy will be the d-line, and anytime a team is playing a 30 defense, it almost won't work UNLESS the line is heavy. I mean, you're putting 3 on 5 if you don't blitz.
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I know I shouldn't do ths, and I know I'm probably wasting my time but here it is.
There is more ways tan one to skin a cat. In other words, there's more than one way to get speed on the field. Like having a 3-4 base then dropping into a nickel or dime when facing a spread. This allows you to use a safety or corner like an extra LB and move a LB up to the LOS as a DE. Every team we play does not run a spread so we have to be able to defend both the spread and a "power" offense.
Now, like Forrest says "That's all I'm gonna say about that."
There is more ways tan one to skin a cat. In other words, there's more than one way to get speed on the field. Like having a 3-4 base then dropping into a nickel or dime when facing a spread. This allows you to use a safety or corner like an extra LB and move a LB up to the LOS as a DE. Every team we play does not run a spread so we have to be able to defend both the spread and a "power" offense.
Now, like Forrest says "That's all I'm gonna say about that."
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Bama Bo said:
10 pages and a headache later you're gonna regret this. :wink:
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Please make it stop!
musso
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weezyfbaby00 said:
i too have faith in Saban, but that isn't the issue. the point of some threads isn't to simply shout "Amen" to whatever the coach says or does. instead, some threads are intended to critique, question, and analyze. this requires the use of reason, not faith. in the end, we are all going to support our coach and hope that he succeeds with whatever strategy he uses, whether it makes sense to us or not.
musso
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Argo said:To be honest, I ran across that video the other day and have been looking to post it somewhere.
:lol: i do the same thing sometimes. :lol:
Argo and Bo,
in none of the articles on this topic has any writer or coach advocated any particular scheme in defending the spread. instead, the issue has been size, weight, speed, and endurance. that's it.
so you have to ask yourself, if we do play a 3-3-5 against the spread (or any other scheme for that matter), what ought to be the size of our D-front? are we better served with D-linemen over 300 lbs or under? are we better served with our DEs being over 270 lbs or under? are we better served with our LBs being over 240 or under?
your responses seemed to be overly preoccupied with scheme when the only issue i and the other writers and coaches have raised is size and speed.
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Bama Bo said:
isn't there a verse in the book of Proverbs that goes "Like a dog returning to his vomit ..." :lol:
Bama Bo said:
this is fine by me. makes perfect sense. this is an example of doing exactly what i and all the other coaches and writers advocate: putting a lighter defense on the field to defend the spread.
Bama Bo said:
again, i agree. the next question is, what ought to be the ideal weight and size of our defense? i like the sizes of most other SEC defenses. i don't think we need DL over 300 lbs, nor do i think we need LB over say 235 lbs.
