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it is their modus operandi.

You'd think we lived in communist China the way they guys are cowering to legitimate questions.

 


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"Shut up and dribble"
"Stick to sports"
"Keep politics out of my sports."

Thats what yall want until now, huh? Make your minds up. Keep this same energy next time a black athlete shares a political opinion you don't agree with.
 
"Shut up and dribble"
"Stick to sports"
"Keep politics out of my sports."

Thats what yall want until now, huh? Make your minds up. Keep this same energy next time a black athlete shares a political opinion you don't agree with.

We just witnessed something you fully endorse. The very same people you've said 'have the right to have a voice,' when confronted by situations they've voiced opinions about now have nothing to say. Because a communist regime mandated "free speech isn't allowed here?" Are you that hung-up you can't see the bigger picture here?

A spokesperson interrupted the reporter's question and says the basketball only. A spokesperson, saying "stay in your lane" to a reporter.

I think of the time Steve Kerr had on TV expressing his opinions. And then I see millions having their human rights stripped away and he portrays himself as not knowing about what's going on.

Setting that aside ...

"Will you "feel differently" on speaking about societal and political issues because of the events in China/NBA."

Stay in your lane.

People are upset because they see the hypocrisy. A portion of them include a group who believed a lot of the people making political statements were only performing a charade.



ESPN, showing communist propaganda is a story in itself: likely done by someone who has no clue about Taiwan. That map is messed up.
 
On a related note ... somewhere ... read today a couple were kicked out of a game in Philadelphia for yelling "Free Hong Kong" during a free throw.

Now. We have to set that aside. That'd tick me off period.

However, am I the only one to find this happening in Philly ironic? Bill of Rights anyone?
 
We just witnessed something you fully endorse. The very same people you've said 'have the right to have a voice,' when confronted by situations they've voiced opinions about now have nothing to say. Because a communist regime mandated "free speech isn't allowed here?" Are you that hung-up you can't see the bigger picture here?

A spokesperson interrupted the reporter's question and says the basketball only. A spokesperson, saying "stay in your lane" to a reporter.

I think of the time Steve Kerr had on TV expressing his opinions. And then I see millions having their human rights stripped away and he portrays himself as not knowing about what's going on.

Setting that aside ...

"Will you "feel differently" on speaking about societal and political issues because of the events in China/NBA."

Stay in your lane.

People are upset because they see the hypocrisy. A portion of them include a group who believed a lot of the people making political statements were only performing a charade.



ESPN, showing communist propaganda is a story in itself: likely done by someone who has no clue about Taiwan. That map is messed up.

I don't know the full extent of the story but just like when it comes to all of these other things people have whined about athletes giving their opinions on, I don't care whether they do or don't.

I'm not okay with the NBA or anyone saying "you can't talk about that." That is not okay. I'm perfectly fine with ESPN not wanting to talk about (though not so much telling their commentators they CANT). Irregardless, the same people that were screaming "shut up and dribble" are telling ESPN they HAVE to talk about this. That was my issue.
 
I don't know the full extent of the story but just like when it comes to all of these other things people have whined about athletes giving their opinions on, I don't care whether they do or don't.
It's worth taking your time to read. To be frank, I'm shocked you don't know about Hong Kong. Taiwan, the waters in that area, a lot probably haven't read about that history.
I'm not okay with the NBA or anyone saying "you can't talk about that." That is not okay. I'm perfectly fine with ESPN not wanting to talk about (though not so much telling their commentators they CANT). Irregardless, the same people that were screaming "shut up and dribble" are telling ESPN they HAVE to talk about this. That was my issue.
I'm sure you can understand why. If you can't, I read it as being called out.

There are a lot of tentacles here Josh... shoes, popularity, broadcasting rights contracts (which in turn points to entertainment and Disney.)
 
"Shut up and dribble"
"Stick to sports"
"Keep politics out of my sports."

Thats what yall want until now, huh? Make your minds up. Keep this same energy next time a black athlete shares a political opinion you don't agree with.

I can agree with this... To a certain extent.

I'm in the same lane as Adam Silver... Who I really don't like.. But free speech away - Understand the consequences. Same way I felt about the NFL.. Kneel away - Understand the consequences.

Ultimately it always just comes down to money. NBA is in a real bind here, and really all of America is... Because whether some want to admit it or not, we count on China for our economy. Well they count on us too. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. That's the CONSEQUENCES of getting into business with someone as ethically/politically/socially backwards as China. Now let's see who's really going to "take a stand".... So far it ain't Kerr, Pop, or the NBA.
 
It's worth taking your time to read. To be frank, I'm shocked you don't know about Hong Kong. Taiwan, the waters in that area, a lot probably haven't read about that history.

There's so much going on in this world right now, it's hard to keep up with every controversy. I'll look at it, though.
 
I don’t care for athletes or actors/actresses that speak out, simply because it doesn’t seem from the heart or even honest. It sounds scripted and as if it is an attempt to get them in the spotlight. When they speak on a consistent basis about atrocities, political views, etc. it has more meaning to me. It tells me that they have a truly invested interest. When they speak out once and then crawl under a rock or go “silent” when actually given a chance to say their peace, it rings very hollow. I don’t give a shit what color they are or what they play, be truthful and passionate when speaking.
 
We just witnessed something you fully endorse. The very same people you've said 'have the right to have a voice,' when confronted by situations they've voiced opinions about now have nothing to say. Because a communist regime mandated "free speech isn't allowed here?" Are you that hung-up you can't see the bigger picture here?

A spokesperson interrupted the reporter's question and says the basketball only. A spokesperson, saying "stay in your lane" to a reporter.

I think of the time Steve Kerr had on TV expressing his opinions. And then I see millions having their human rights stripped away and he portrays himself as not knowing about what's going on.

Setting that aside ...

"Will you "feel differently" on speaking about societal and political issues because of the events in China/NBA."

Stay in your lane.

People are upset because they see the hypocrisy. A portion of them include a group who believed a lot of the people making political statements were only performing a charade.



ESPN, showing communist propaganda is a story in itself: likely done by someone who has no clue about Taiwan. That map is messed up.

"likely done by someone who has no clue about Taiwan." Or Tibet for that matter.
 
The thing that bothers me the most is the overly boisterious way that a lot of people are expressing their opinion on matters as well as how overly boisterous people are who have different viewpoints. The word respect has lost a lot of its power. Whether it's family or friends or co-workers, I'm around a large diversity of backgrounds, race and religious beliefs. Maybe I'm just lucky, but when it comes to political or social viewpoints, even if we have different thoughts on different issues, we always treat each other with respect. I've got family and I know some of you all have served in our military to give us the privilege of having freedom of speech. (Thank you all who have served) Freedom of speech does not exclude anyone from possible repercussions of what is said. lol Anyone who is married knows what I mean. Maybe more important is the fact that freedom of speech does not mean that you always have to say anything.
 
I don't know the full extent of the story but just like when it comes to all of these other things people have whined about athletes giving their opinions on, I don't care whether they do or don't.

I'm not okay with the NBA or anyone saying "you can't talk about that." That is not okay. I'm perfectly fine with ESPN not wanting to talk about (though not so much telling their commentators they CANT). Irregardless, the same people that were screaming "shut up and dribble" are telling ESPN they HAVE to talk about this. That was my issue.

That's not a word.
 
Didn't they forced a NBA owner to sell his team? Didn't they move NBA All-Star game from Charlotte due to the 'Bathroom Bill'. Same NBA right?

Look up the percentage of NBA viewers in China...chicken shit hypocrites I believe is what you call this.

I don't watch pro sports anymore (exception here is a PGA major) I don't play fantasy sports leagues anymore. It's just not important to me anymore.
 
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